I concede that Rohloff uses proprietary components that would be challenging to 
service in the field. I take some inspiration from the folks at Tumbleweed, who 
prefer them for bikepacking - I figure if they’re reliable enough for the Gobi 
desert I should be OK riding one around Mallorca. And I’ll fess up that I’m 
tempted by the gee-whiz aspect as well. 

Still, the point stands that I’m most comfortable with legacy tech like 
friction-shifted derailleurs and rim brakes, and there is value in being able 
to troubleshoot and service my own gear. How much customization does BF allow - 
will they balk at Silver shifters and Paul Motolites?

I’m in no hurry to get this project off the ground - I’m in the contemplation 
and planning stage. My touring plans are on hold indefinitely while Covid plays 
out, and to some extent planning a build like this is a surrogate for the trips 
I’m not taking this year. 

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

Sent from my Atari 400

> On Jun 18, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Kent Peterson -- Eugene, Oregon 
> <kentsb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> OK, bias alert. I work in the service department of Bike Friday. I've logged 
> a hell of a lot of miles on New World Tourists and I've seen what people 
> manage to bust on tours.
> 
> I'd like to point out one contradiction in your inclinations: You want to 
> avoid proprietary parts but you are leaning towards a a Rohloff hub. The 
> Rohloff is a lovely piece of work that rarely fails, but can fail. It has a 
> proprietary shifter with proprietary cables.
> 
> Many of our customers who get Rohloffs or Alfines also get Gates belt drives. 
> Again, proprietary. If you bend a Gates cog, good luck finding one at a local 
> bike shop.
> 
> If I was building a bike for myself for your use case scenario, I'd go with 
> either a New World Tourist or a Pocket Llama. With a conventional derailler 
> drivetrain. When I pack it in the suitcase, I'd unbolt the rear derailler. 
> More bikes get messed up in the suitcase than get messed up on the road.
> 
> Anyway, that's my $.02
> 
> BTW, Bike Friday is running a skeleton crew under partial COVID lockdown & 
> deliveries across our supply chains are shot to hell. Delivery times for new 
> bikes are out into the fall right now.
> 
> Kent Peterson
> Eugene, OR USA
> 
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