Dave's problem looks to be solved.  I do want to throw in a couple of 
things about Tubus racks:

1.  The quoted 165 mm fork tip to mid-fork is what Tubus uses.  It is a 
commonly used dimension but hardly universal.  Case in point being Bruce 
Gordon racks. The mid fork mount MUST be correctly located for the Duo to 
sit level.  While the Duo has 3 mounting holes, the adjustment is limited.

2. An advantage of the Tara is it can be used with a bolt on mid fork 
mount.  No eyelet needed.

3.  "Hoopless is hopeless" is a myth, despite being Bruce's stand on the 
question.  The main tube on the Duo is a much larger diameter, and hence 
inherently stiffer, than the tubing on the Tara, which has the hoop.  They 
actually weigh about the same.  The Duo is stiff enough without the hoop.  
I've used it with Ortlieb large back rollers, stuffed full for a lodging 
trip.  The panniers are intended for rear mount & so have limited ground 
clearance.  OK on pavement; not good on trails.

dougP, (hopelessly hoopless)


On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 7:25:33 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> Curious as to what lowriders people are using on Atlantii. Bonus points 
> for pix.  
>
> Brett in pdx
>

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