What I observed was a really reasonable, civil topic highlighting BLM and an fundraising effort that Jan is making with Bicycle Quarterly. Maybe I missed something inflammatory in it, but the email is now lost (along with the link ( https://www.renehersecycles.com/a-small-thing-bq-fund-drive-to-benefit-black-lives-matter/ ) ).
Like others, I want this to remain a civil community. However, I find the judgement call about what is "on topic" problematic. If this is about civility, let's focus on that and not muddy the waters with any other areas for subjectivity. Here are some different actions that could be taken: - Write a code of conduct for the group and post it as a sticky post. Be clear about what constitutes uncivil behavior, what kinds of topics are explicitly disallowed, and what the consequences are when someone breaks the rules. - When it comes to deleting threads, I think it's really important to preserve the thread so that people can see how the code is being enforced. This provides accountability in both directions. The obvious exception would be for threads or messages that are hateful or abusive. I'd suggest a policy like this: * When someone posts something uncivil, it will be deleted. * When someone posts something about a topic that is explicitly disallowed, the thread will be locked (but not deleted) along with a reminder about the code of conduct. * When someone posts something that isn't uncivil seems like it could be taking the thread in that direction, the thread will be locked (but not deleted) along with a personal statement from the moderator about them making the call to shut it down in order to protect the community sense of safety and civility. Again, this is ultimately your community Jim and you have the power & responsibility to make the call here. The rest of us have the power & responsibility to make sure that we are participating in a community that is compatible with our core values. William William Sent from my iPhone On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 9:42 AM, Philip Williamson < philip.william...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > Thank you for your thoughtful post, Franklyn. I agree that race is an > in-bounds topic here, but name-calling is unacceptable and > counter-persuasive. I’ve seen more people bend away from their reflexive > answers in the last few days than ever before on the internet, and only in > response to kindness while explaining a different perspective. > > > > I’m sorry that stuff happens to you. It sounds much worse than my > experience with people in cars who feel I’m a just target for being on > “their” roads. I’m glad you persist in riding. I also particularly enjoy > your photos of Berkeley views. > > > > Philip > Santa Rosa, CA > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this topic, > visit https:/ / groups. google. com/ d/ topic/ rbw-owners-bunch/ vfSNhhORXbg/ > unsubscribe ( > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/vfSNhhORXbg/unsubscribe > ). To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscribe@ > googlegroups. com ( rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com ). To > view this discussion on the web visit https:/ / groups. google. com/ d/ msgid/ > rbw-owners-bunch/ efb934c9-c17a-4467-802d-bb89f6b3a233%40googlegroups. com > ( > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/efb934c9-c17a-4467-802d-bb89f6b3a233%40googlegroups.com > ). > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/kazpiwe0.4590ead0-fa15-4501-9dc3-7d75946c66a5%40we.are.superhuman.com.