Building on Joe's comment that the top tube is just fine, I was amused/intrigued by the Evil Bikes Chamois Hagar, LINK <https://www.backcountry.com/evil-bikes-the-chamois-hagar-grx-gravel-bike?CMP_ID=PD_GOc001BR&utm_source=Google&utm_medium=PSBR&rmatt=tsid:1042759|cid:730639561|agid:37882800173|tid:dsa-277684479583|crid:431435686007|nw:g|rnd:13135215442401209960|dvc:c|adp:|mt:b|loc:9032001&iv_=__iv_p_1_g_37882800173_c_431435686007_w_dsa-277684479583_n_g_d_c_v__l__t__r__x__y__f__o__z__i__j__s__e__h_9032001_ii__vi__&k_clickid=_k_CjwKCAjw8J32BRBCEiwApQEKgU_xC8GARIZD-M4iYsOdpwUiJP3919c6XbX8d_hYiAf_AXVnUuaBthoCDjQQAvD_BwE_k_&gclid=CjwKCAjw8J32BRBCEiwApQEKgU_xC8GARIZD-M4iYsOdpwUiJP3919c6XbX8d_hYiAf_AXVnUuaBthoCDjQQAvD_BwE> .
I started to look at the frame geo numbers and it's a pretty vanilla contemporary mountain bike kind of setup. Put a flat bar and a medium length stem and you'd have a full rigid but otherwise normal mountain bike. In other words, it looked to me like somebody took a normal mountain bike with a tall head tube and put a really stubby stem and dirt drops on it. Voila, Monster Gravel, or whatever you want to call it. I ended up with a retired team bike that was too trashed to re-sell, and decided to run that experiment in reverse. I swapped a stubby stem and dirt drops onto a normal mountain bike. It ended up astonishingly normal. I would call it a hair small for 5'10" me, but a 5'8" rider would be right at home on it. Here's a flickr album of this quarantine project. https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157714412160443 Big picture, think about it. Some people ride 38cm wide drop bars and some people ride 48cm wide drop bars, and others ride 66cm wide drop bars, and they all do fine. Some people ride 800mm flat bars and others ride 550mm flat bars and they all do fine. There is nothing objectively bad about a short stem, provided the bike fits. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, May 21, 2020 at 8:54:01 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > "I agree if your top tube is too long, their product is required and you > need to live with the consequences." > > To be clear, Analog is not promoting the 0 stem as to adapt drops to bikes > that have too-long toptubes. The idea is the toptube is just fine for trail > riding without TCO, and the stem with flared drops is part of that design > plan. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/241920e4-e63b-496d-b66a-f97fb752d1fe%40googlegroups.com.
