Whether the current Sam is too long, too short, or just right certainly depends on your body type but for me, it's perfect. I have a 51 that fits me spot on, and I believe strongly that in order to really love a bike, it can't just be close - it needs to fit. For my 50cm drops I run a 5cm stem, if I ran standard width drops I'd go up to 6 or maybe 7, and with swept bars I'd probably want a 12 or 13cm stem.
And regarding crazy-short stems - to me they are a matched set with the new breed of wide drop bars, and together they make perfect sense. Apart, and they don't work very well at all. Anyways I'm surprised to hear more Sams are coming back before even hearing more about the Charlie H Gallop! And I'd be very surprised if orange was offered, since the last batch of Sams had the latest & greatest slightly-pearled orange (ie, mine!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bcfbb67b-46fc-48ad-8e08-f50f281427aa%40googlegroups.com.