My Rivs, at least, complain if I put much more than 15 lb more or less
evenly distributed between L and R; though 20 -- 10 each -- is alright.
Heavy loads do much better in the rear, either in Rollers or in one of the
big Riv saddlebags -- I've carried up to 45 lb in rear panniers on a light
road frame (v good rack), 40 on the various Rivs; usual rear load maxes out
at ~35, though.  But much better than front.

Dave Porter added front lowrider bosses to my original issue Sam, and I
tried putting 40 lb (perhaps it was 50; at any rate, a very large number of
gallon milk jugs filled with water, to test things) in lowrider panniers. I
could barely steer, and turned around within 1/4 mile of home.

Might as well complete the anecdote train: Long ago, had a cheap Schwinn
World Traveler or somesuch. Installed huge Wald Newsboy basket and slung in
a couple of cinderblocks -- test; don't generally carry contruction
materials on my bikes -- for a total of (IIRC) 53 lb. Talk about unwieldy!
I did ride it for a hundred yards or so.

On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 4:19 PM Clark Fitzgerald <[email protected]>
wrote:

> It's hard to beat the big Ortlieb rollers for groceries. Just grab them
> and load up. I like putting bread and chips on the very top, so it will
> just barely buckle. This week I had probably 40 lbs in them on the front
> rack- it had so much inertia that I actually moved the quill stem about 15
> degrees when I pulled into my driveway. The stem must've been a little
> loose.
>
> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 4:12:52 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Waiting for Chauncey to deliver the new (God willing) Riv Road clone,
>> with custom rackset, I've been reduced to shopping with my 1999 Joe gofast
>> with Camper Longflap. Today's ride was an extended detour to the nearest
>> Sprout"s and local grass-fed, free-range meat/egg Keller's.
>>
>> I'm sorry, but certainly the Camper LF, and even the Large Sackville, is
>> no match for big Ortliebs when it comes to serious grocery shopping. I
>> filled up the CLF at Sprout's and had to use the Velo Retro musette (I keep
>> 1 stashed with the tool kit for each bike) for the ~3 lb of various
>> sausages, 1 lb gr beef, and 2 personal-size packs o' chips. Fortunately,
>> home is 3/4 mile from Keller's.
>>
>> With just rear Rollers -- the setup on the new bike will allow for Sports
>> lowriders in addition -- I could have carried it all with a great deal of
>> room to spare, and the bike would have been far less top heavy -- holding
>> 6-pack in right hand as I kept hold of bike with left, I had the bike 3
>> times fall over on its side due to weight imbalance, in the checkout line,
>> as other shoppers looked on diapprovingly. One-hand rescues in each case,
>> and the drawstring neck prevented spillage, but still, not conducing to the
>> air of effortless mastery that I like to project.
>>
>> --
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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