Thanks for the responses. I think I'm going to go for the Ortlieb Bike
Packer Plus or The Back Roller plus.


On Apr 7, 3:33 pm, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
> > I've got some newer style ones (bike packer plus), with a flap closure, 
> > fold-seal outer pocket, inner pocket for a few items, etc..
>
> There are two roll up styles.  The one with plus is the newest Ortlieb
> design available.  All Ortliebs are great.
>
> > Thanks for posting that.  Those are the Orliebs I'm considering, and
> > they seem cheap compared to the Arkels, Carradice, and Berthoud
> > panniers.
>
> Minimalist, not cheap.  Ortliebs will almost certainly outlast any
> other pannier made.  For long haul rough stuff touring they are the
> best for the money.
>
> > The storefront says they are sold out.  :(
>
> Contact them through their Facebook page.  They have a pieces of
> fabric pre-cut and will sew you up a set very quickly if interested.
> They did not have a vegan when I ordered the beginning of last week.
> My bag is already in the mail.  I should have it today or tomorrow.
>
> BTW, vegan is $20.00 less than leather.
>
> On Apr 7, 2:26 pm, happyriding <happyrid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > On Apr 6, 7:21 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Unless I've missed it, most folks have talked about the roll-up Ortliebs. 
> > >  
>
> > > I've got some newer style ones (bike packer plus), with a flap closure, 
> > > fold-seal outer pocket, inner pocket for a few items, etc..  they are 
> > > exceptional, and I've not yet found a rack they didn't adjust to quite 
> > > well.  A little spendy, and a little bit awkward to carry when off the 
> > > bike (if you need to), but for largish, sturdy, weatherproofish, panniers 
> > > with lots of reflection and compression to take up the slack, I think 
> > > they cannot be beat.
>
> > Thanks for posting that.  Those are the Orliebs I'm considering, and
> > they seem cheap compared to the Arkels, Carradice, and Berthoud
> > panniers.
>
> > > That being said, i'm thinking of getting a set of the brown LaplanderBags 
> > > "City Waxed Canvas" ones cuz they are so darn attractive, and will 
> > > complete the look of my orange Sam.
>
> > The storefront says they are sold out.  :(

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