I wonder if an electric bike would be what you need, even if other users ride foolishly. I'd certainly think of one if I were in your situation; nothing more horrible IME than 2 daily commutes on crowded roads in a car.
I tend to move left when an oncoming rider seems to be encroaching on my right of way, which seems to encourage them to move back into their lane; OTOH, I scrupulously refrain from doing the same to others -- if am to come abreast of a pedestrian ahead at the same time an oncoming cyclist reaches the spot, I will slow to walking speed rather than dart into the oncoming cyclist's path. Good luck and thank you for your work On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:07 AM Sky Coulter <incommontr...@gmail.com> wrote: > My riding has dropped to almost zero for April; i think i managed to > commute to work at the start of the month once, but my shifts are 12hrs > long And i’ve worked almost every calendar day since mid-march so didn’t > want to risk further compromising my immune system. My next day off is May > 7th and i’m very much looking forward to a bike ride. > > I’ve found people hereabouts - metrovancouver - are very responsive to the > crane bell chime when i ring it on bike paths. Maybe its because the note > hangs in the air and as i quickly approach they hear it getting closer,, > but often they almost scramble to get out of the way. Sometimes i won’t > ring it and i’ll just wait for an opportunity to go off the path to get > around pedestrians if i don’t feel rushed and don’t want to startle them. > > In general people here abide by the > animal>pedestrian>human-powered>motor-powered hierarchy on shared access > paths. The annoying exception is the electric bicycle and scooter crowd. > There is a narrow shared pedestrian cyclist path on the Patullo bridge i > commute to work across where there isn’t room for two cyclists to pass each > other. The signs actually request cyclists to dismount and walk their > bicycles, although given its 800m long or so, that seems a bit > unreasonable. But certainly most prudent cyclists, if traveling downhill, > will pull over and hug the rail for the uphill cyclist when passing. Not so > the e-biker. > > Generally i find they continue at full speed without moving over much at > all, expecting the uphill cyclist to either stop and get out of their way, > or to continue on, along the razor edge of the path with large trucks > passing within a foot of the handlebar. And they do it with a blissfully > ignorant smile and not one whiff of bad intention. > > It’s really turned me off e-bikes a bit, although part of me would still > like to put a copenhagen wheel on my clementine so i could commute even on > the days i feel too worn out. But then i wonder how long it would be before > i’d become exactly the rider that i loath when i’m sweatily peddling up > that bridge. > > Sky in new west > > > > > > On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Andrew Erman <aer...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Too funny > > On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:47 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Kicked her into the ditch, actually. But only in my sinful thoughts. > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 5:44 PM Andrew Erman <aer...@ucla.edu> wrote: > >> Patrick, >> >> Great story! Did you really push the lady in the ditch? >> >> I have an electric bike I used to ride to work (till a few weeks ago, >> when I switched to riding solely human powered bikes) - I have Zound horn >> on that bike to use with cars - it will definitely get people’s attention! >> >> Best, >> >> Andy >> >> On Apr 26, 2020, at 4:39 PM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Bells are friendly, but don't work with too many walkers I encounter. Two >> instances: >> >> First, was riding along a ditch bank road, saw a couple ahead taking the >> width of the path, started ringing my Spurcycle bell 100' in advance of >> passing; no reaction, so I passed. Man said, peevishly, "You should ring >> your bell." I, already peeved myself, skidded to a stop and said, "I >> started ringing it 50 yards back" -- a bit of an exaggeration, but not >> grossly so. He replied, "Thanks for ringing." I, mollified, got back on the >> bike, at which point the woman, standing next to him, said, peevisly, "You >> should have a bell!" I pushed her into the ditch. >> >> A week or 2 later, I was riding north (fast, admittedly, with strong >> tailwind) along a ditch road and saw a small crowd walking south, stretched >> out across the width of the road. Rang Spurcycle like the dickens from well >> in advance of passing; *no reaction!* I got within 30 feet and >> deliberately skidded my rear tire, at which point all looked up in panic >> and scattered. I continued on my way with a triumphant and scornful laugh. >> >> I replaced my brass striker bells with Spurcycles at great cost (the >> black anodized one was 60 bucks), but sweet and piercing as they are, they >> don't have the loud commanding RRRRIIIINNNGGG of the large-size strikers. >> (Confession: Long, long ago, I used to enjoy using a Zounds! air horn on >> clueless pedestrians; tho' only after tiring out my bell thumb. They >> jumped!) >> >> Seriously, I try to rein in my temper; after all, so many people aren't >> used to shared routes. What is annoying is not so much the obstruction as >> the cluelessness; and I remind myself that I too am too often not mindful >> in other respects -- though I try to be. Mindfulness! It gets you so much >> more out of life! >> >> Or I could obey Garth. But there's no fun in that! >> >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:15 PM Ray Varella <rayvarella...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I encounter walkers taking up entire paths quite frequently. >>> Some ignore bells. >>> So far, none of them have ignored a skidding tire. >>> I lock up my rear brake when I’m way behind them, they always turn >>> around and then move to the side. >>> I think it’s the impending possibility that someone is about to crash >>> into them that alerts them. >>> >>> Bells are friendly and they work with civilized people. >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7f65393d-f228-4ff0-9aee-c04936322be3%40googlegroups.com >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgu5aj1HTC1oatujPVkRKL8imV-r_MBsg98ErkbOQK5ohQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgu5aj1HTC1oatujPVkRKL8imV-r_MBsg98ErkbOQK5ohQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DA26FEE2-8692-428D-AE06-2C2385EE4C35%40ucla.edu >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/DA26FEE2-8692-428D-AE06-2C2385EE4C35%40ucla.edu?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfguXRQ%3DTxrrz6wcjy9Mp%2Bvc8OMW5GPYPz16WuLtMFLep1w%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfguXRQ%3DTxrrz6wcjy9Mp%2Bvc8OMW5GPYPz16WuLtMFLep1w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/B56A91D6-3F25-4197-921B-B441B9D82543%40ucla.edu > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/B56A91D6-3F25-4197-921B-B441B9D82543%40ucla.edu?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/63D6137F-8F75-41EB-93BC-A70773D6AFD1%40gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/63D6137F-8F75-41EB-93BC-A70773D6AFD1%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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