+1 I would love to see that route from Sac to Truckee. I was looking at a 
route through Foresthill.

On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 10:32:59 AM UTC-7, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Collin, perhaps we could continue the thread drift a bit, because the 
> 'east side Lost Sierra' route you are describing has been of large interest 
> to me as well. My initial version is to ride from home (Rocklin) to 
> Truckee, north around Stampede Reservoir and generally along the HWY 89 
> corridor through Sierra Valley (my happy place!). Maybe make it as far 
> north as Lake Davis, then back through Portola and Graegle, up through 
> Lakes Basin, Downieville, and some route home from there. Maybe 3-4 days 
> for that?
>
> All great riding, but the first part from Rocklin to Truckee is a bit 
> daunting. The most straightforward route I have found is Foresthill Divide 
> out to Soda Springs Road, which connects to Old 40 at Donner Pass. That 
> would be a day and a half of riding for me, and only the Soda Springs part 
> is dirt, unless I wanted to be creative and ride the Western States.
>
> Are you able to share your route from Sac to Truckee?
>
> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:25:46 AM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>>
>> Nice, glad the hunkering was rewarded with a lovely view of the mountain! 
>> I was hoping to spend time this summer exploring the area, but that looks 
>> less likely each week...
>>
>> I met up with friends at summit lake for labor day weekend, then we drove 
>> home.
>>
>> I've been half-assing a route trying to connect Truckee and Lassen for 
>> the past year, but I think with the time I have now I should be able to 
>> start pulling that route together more seriously. It would ideally connect 
>> through Quincy and Downieville, so I should be able to pull resources from 
>> Sierra Buttes Trails to build the route. I already have a route that 
>> connects Sac and Truckee with mostly dirt, so once this chunk gets finished 
>> you could make a train trip to Klammath Falls and finish at Amtrak in 
>> Sacramento. Maybe ~500 miles with a boat load of climbing over 7-12 days.
>>
>> Sorry for the thread drift everyone!
>> Collin in Sac
>>
>> On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:06:59 AM UTC-7, Neil Doran wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Collin! I've noodled the very southern end of that route on a 
>>> three-day loop out of Chester. Spent two days and nights hunkered down at 
>>> Manzanita Lake due to rain and snow. The weather cleared miraculously for 
>>> us and we boogied down through Old Station. I'll never forget the view 
>>> looking back at Lassen with a fresh jacket of snow. Just love that area.
>>>
>>> Hey, your track ends at Summit Lake...did someone meet you there for 
>>> transport, or did you turn around and ride back to Klamath?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 3:32:43 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Well aren't you in luck...wrote it up about a year ago. Links to the 
>>>> route are at the bottom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/17d158deQiEkjr8pvIZfszoqJQqghZVNFzBsoZmqhg-E/edit?usp=sharing
>>>>
>>>>  And thanks for the compliments on the clem, it definitely serves well 
>>>> as a mostly blank and adaptable canvas.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 1:44:21 PM UTC-7, Neil Doran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Collin, I really dug the photos of your Clem, lots of great ways to 
>>>>> camp on that bike! Especially love the bottle behind the seat tube.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would love to hear more about that Lava Beds route, if you could 
>>>>> elaborate...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:16:24 AM UTC-7, Collin A wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a big fan of the large voluminous bags that allow you to stuff 
>>>>>> all sorts of things into them, rather than strapping all sorts of bags 
>>>>>> everywhere; Think BagsxBird and Sackville saddle sacks. That being said, 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> find that having one or two accessory bags strapped to the handlebars 
>>>>>> help 
>>>>>> with organization that the large bags aren't so good at - tool bag, 
>>>>>> phone/camera bag, first aid - things you want easy access to and you 
>>>>>> don't 
>>>>>> have to go digging for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Re: Bikepacking bags - I found that they are mostly designed to 
>>>>>> operate without racks, which tend to save a big chunk of weight, and the 
>>>>>> smaller bags encourage only bringing what you need. However, it is part 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> a *system *which means you will also need the super packable tent, 
>>>>>> sleeping bag, cookset, etc. to make it operate well ($$$$$$)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Personally, I like to run a hybrid system with a bagsxbird bag 
>>>>>> attached to the handlebars, a bedrock tapeats to hold my phone, camera, 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> wallet; half-framebag; sackville bagboy bag supported by a tumbleweed 
>>>>>> t-rack that I can attach mini-paniers (for longer trips) or extra bottle 
>>>>>> cages for more water if needed. The perk with this setup is it allows 
>>>>>> for 
>>>>>> easy removal of all bags to lighten the bike up for a day ride once you 
>>>>>> get 
>>>>>> to your destination and explore the park/reserve/forest you are staying 
>>>>>> at. 
>>>>>> An album that I occsionally update is here, if you are curious: 
>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/JU2uuwp957K5S5H79
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just daydreaming now,
>>>>>> Collin in Sac
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:38:26 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aren't the bikepacker-type of bags meant to make riding easier in 
>>>>>>> bush, and also to save a wee bit of weight for those who like 
>>>>>>> minimalist 
>>>>>>> camping? Just curious; I agree that, if these aren't the reasons, I 
>>>>>>> can't 
>>>>>>> see why you'd forgo racks and panniers. Racks and panniers are 
>>>>>>> certainly 
>>>>>>> better for errands and they are my preferred setup because they allow 
>>>>>>> such 
>>>>>>> flexibility of volume 1 or a pair of either Sports Packers or 
>>>>>>> Backrollers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tubus racks were my choice until I started having customs made; the 
>>>>>>> Fly -- no longer made -- weighed 11 oz but was rated to 20 kg and 
>>>>>>> several 
>>>>>>> of them served me well indeed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 8:11 AM Pat Smith <pbsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm a big fan of the traditional 2 pannier setup. All these special 
>>>>>>>> bikepacking bags seem more hassle than they are worth. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Get a decent rack, like a Blackburn Grid (or something nicer if 
>>>>>>>> you're feeling fancy) and a pair of Ortlieb backrollers and you're 
>>>>>>>> good to 
>>>>>>>> go for a night or two. The space on top of the rack between the two 
>>>>>>>> panniers is good for bungee cording a tarp/footprint or whatever else 
>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>> weatherproof. What I found was getting the actual camping gear was 
>>>>>>>> more 
>>>>>>>> effort (bag, tent, pad, cookware, etc.). I do like a small handlebar 
>>>>>>>> or 
>>>>>>>> saddle bag for my cell/keys/wallet type of items. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two panniers may be a bit overkill on a S24O in warm weather, but 
>>>>>>>> if you're only on your bike for a day or so the little extra weight 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> capacity won't kill you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 9:41:08 PM UTC-4, J L wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping 
>>>>>>>>> duty. Any sage advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can 
>>>>>>>>> ride out 
>>>>>>>>> from the house, do one or two overnights, and ride home. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a 
>>>>>>>>> backpack or bike basket and going. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jason 
>>>>>>>>> SF, CA
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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