>
> Patrick:  I would describe it simply as feeling less in control of the 
> bike and more of the bike shooting me off.  The twitchiness depending on 
> setup and wheelbase, long and low aerodynamic position, high saddle to bar 
> drop, etc.  The position in the Roadini, the longer headtube, the angles, 
> all make it much more comfortable ride.  I'm sure I'm sacrificing speed to 
> some degree, but that is a non-issue as I'm not racing crits and I don't 
> use Strava.  I just ride, lol.
>

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:41:03 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Dave: You are experiencing that almost ineffable Grant-design/Rivendell 
> build bike feel that seems to be a unique quality of all Rivendell models. 
> My own conceptualization of this "feel" is that the bikes are stable while 
> riding straight, but transition into a turn with neither hesitation nor 
> "flop". I've owned 5 Rivendell bikes, 3 customs and a first gen Sam Hill 
> and a second gen (32s with fenders) Ram; all exhibited this quality -- tho' 
> that Sam had a quality I didn't like: when twiddling up steep hills in low 
> gears with weight way back, the front end was darty. Perhaps later Sams 
> don't do this? I didn't find this so with the customs or the Ram.
>
> Can you elaborate on what you mean by "feeling like a rock in a 
> slingshot"? (That has to be the most vivid cycling metaphor I've heard in a 
> long time.) I do indeed experience the feeling of being "in the bike" with 
> all those Rivendells; another vivid and worth metaphor.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 7:56 PM Dave Grossman <gma...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I bought a Roadini frameset a over a year ago and finally got around to 
>> building it up during the crisis.  As a father of small children, my time 
>> to ride outside of family rides and commuting is limited, so I was hesitant 
>> to put money into a road bike.  I couldn't be more glad that I did.
>>
>> The bike is the most unaggressive-aggressive bike I have owned.  It has a 
>> terrific riding position (I have a 90 pbh and bought the 61 to be on a 
>> "bigger" bike and it was a good choice), and I feel like I am in the bike 
>> as opposed to feeling like a rock in a slingshot.  It does everything a 
>> road bike should do, and I don't get off feeling beaten by the road.  
>> Anyhow, thanks to Grant for making a bike unlike any other bike brand 
>> today.  I'm proud to be a two Riv garage (I have a Hunq also).
>>
>> Build:
>> Nitto Ui-12 31.8 Stem
>> Salsa Woodchipper Bars 46cm
>> Dura Ace 7400 Cranks (49/39)
>> Dura Ace 7700 Bar Ends
>> Sram 11-34 9 speed Cassette
>> Deore 9 RD
>> Sora FD
>> Mavic CXP 33s Laced To CK Classics
>> Schwalbe One 28s
>> Berthoud Saddle
>>
>>
>> I'll get a pic up soon.
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