I don't think handling is the issue.

The Bomba and the Hunq were designed with the thought that some
significant percentage of the riders would use flat bars at least some
of the time.  Most flat bars do not extend forward much beyond the
stem.  If your bike and stem fit right with flat bars, drops will
usually extend beyond your comfort range mounted on the same stem.  So
you need to get a shorter stem for the drops.

Thus with my Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road:  On tour I use Nitto Randos
with a BG Chicken Neck 11 degree 11 mm stem.   For city riding
currently I have Nitto Jitensha bars with an old Cannondale 20 degree
13 mm stem*.  To the extent handling is different between the two
configurations, the fact that I am sitting more upright and am riding
on city streets versus open roads most likely is far more a factor
than the length and rise of stem.

*A BG Chicken Neck will be coming my way after the San Diego bike
show.

On Apr 6, 9:03 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote:
> yeah, i've got a Fisher Cobia 29er and it's one of the most comfortable and 
> controllable mountain bikes i've ever ridden, on or off road.  i swapped the 
> short factory stem for an adjustable that's about the same length but 
> adjusted a few degrees higher...  was commuting on it for a while and found 
> that was alleviated hand pressure better when spending an hour dodging LA 
> traffic.  
>
> echoing comments made about short stems and light ends though, when riding on 
> dirt it's a bit light but still tractive.  though on streets, when starting 
> up from traffic lights i have to watch my gearing or i pop a wheelie :)
>
> -andrew
>
> On Apr 6, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Richard wrote:
>
>
>
> > If Gary Fisher's bikes are an indicator of something (?), many years
> > ago Gary Fisher designed his mountain bikes with what I believe was
> > called "Genesis" geometery.  Those bikes had longer top tubes and
> > shorter stems, and the reviews were generally pretty good.

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