> As far as I know, it doesn't matter what color background a reflector
> is stuck to.   So having a less visible color for the rearward facing
> side of the pannier, i.e. black instead of hi vis yellow, strikes me
> as being a flaw in the design.

Ortlieb designs its panniers to German government safety standards. I
expect there has been a lot of research behind the material color
choice.

When I come up behind someone with Ortliebs on tour, I always notice
the reflectors first.  Well before I can make out any detail of the
bike or rider.

On Apr 6, 3:27 pm, happyriding <happyrid...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Apr 6, 11:56 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > > Here's something I don't understand about the Ortliebs.  I would like
> > > to get high visibility panniers, like the yellow Ortliebs.  However,
> > > the back of the panniers is black.
>
> > By back do you mean the side that attaches to the rack or the side one
> > sees from the back and front of the bike?
>
> > If the latter, Ortlieb has very reflective pieces on the sides that
> > face in front and back of the bike.  Almost annoying when if your bike
> > has a light and your are riding behind someone with Ortliebs.
>
> I'm talking about the side of the pannier that faces rearward.  I call
> that the back, but I guess if you are in the know about panniers, the
> back of the pannier actually goes against the rack, and one of the
> sides faces rearward.
>
> As far as I know, it doesn't matter what color background a reflector
> is stuck to.   So having a less visible color for the rearward facing
> side of the pannier, i.e. black instead of hi vis yellow, strikes me
> as being a flaw in the design.  Someone who buys hi vis panniers wants
> to be seen.  Personally, I feel that I am most vulnerable to cars
> coming from the rear.  Therefore, I would prefer having the entirety
> of the Ortlieb pannier in hi vis yellow.  My second choice would be a
> pannier that was all black with the rear hi vis yellow.

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