My understanding is that this is essentially a Susie but with a straight 
top tube and some customization. I've heard the "they will sell a ton of 
them" before--for instance, with the Legolas. If people are pining for 
almost level top tubes and don't like longer stays, there are lots of 
companies making that style of bicycle. From what I observe, Rivendell is 
not the kind of company that responds to trends, or even caters to what 
people think they want. They come from a somewhat different 
objective/perspective. Even when you order a custom, the process is 
different than working with a custom framebuilder directly, and you are not 
guaranteed to get everything you desire. 

I think it's important to acknowledge that we are in a serious echo chamber 
here on RBW Owners Bunch. On the other hand, what do I know. The bike in 
question doesn't have discs or a motor, so maybe folks at Rivendell will 
jump on this crowd-sourced business advice. If you think that might be the 
case, get our your postcards and  start anagramming "Vaughn Custom" !;^)

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 7:49:57 AM UTC-4, Chris L wrote:
>
> I'll take it further and add that possibly following the Gus/Susie model 
> of two versions for heavier/lighter folks might be a winner.  
>
> Look at how fast old Hunqapillars usually sell on the used market.  
>
> From comments here and on social media, it's clear that many people are 
> turned off by the super-long chainstays and I've been hearing people pining 
> for closer to level top tubes on Rivendells since I discovered RBW in 
> 2011.  
>
> Two versions of this bike as a production model with 
> Gus/Atlantis/Appaloosa prices would be awesome.
>   
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 9:18:49 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>> If they made it available in enough sizes with minimal or no 
>> substitutions as a special order, it might keep their semi-custom queue 
>> filled. 
>>
>> Not trying to micro manage their affairs but it does seem to fill a niche 
>> not currently offered. 
>>
>> Ray 
>>
>>

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