A quick way to test the concept of nose up/down is to set it to an extreme 
up position, ride it and get as used to it as you can for a few blocks, 
then half the angle down and see if that's better or worse. Keep halving as 
desired, so the incrimental change is less and less, riding them a bit 
longer as it gets more dialed in. Only change one aspect at a time (so do 
the same thing with fore/aft adjustment, but only after you have the angle 
at least close to where you want it and ride it for a while.). 

I find this approach to comfort adjustments better than the death by wee 
changes approach, where I can 't tell if it's improved or not. 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, January 2, 2020 at 9:41:29 AM UTC-7, Andrew Nussbaum wrote:
>
> I'm in the process of dialing in the fit on my Toyo Atlantis 
> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/P9oWNGpD2yE83hFx6> and am in need of the 
> group's advice on saddle positioning. I'm using albatross bars for a more 
> upright position--a choice which I've come to love.  But when I sit more 
> upright, I'm noticing that I slide "down" on my B17 saddle. I have 
> positioned the saddle to be parallel to the ground, with perhaps a slight 
> upward tilt.  I'd like my sit bones to be resting on the rear of the 
> saddle.  Should I simply give the saddle a more upward tilt?  Any thoughts 
> are welcome.  
>

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