Ditto for Honjos.  Properly installed metal fenders don't rattle.

Installing metal fenders takes time and patience.  It absolutely cannot be hurried.   Read the instructions several times.  Visualize.  Understand that you cannot and absolutely must not try to pull metal fenders into shape with the stays; instead you've got to massage the fender to alter the curve.  Pushing the edges out to widen the opening tightens the arc of the fender, and squeezing the edges together expands the arc.  You do this little by little over the arc of the fender.

Also, if your fenders aren't pre-drilled, you absolutely can't tape the fender up once, mark all the holes remove and drill.  Do that, and only the first hole will end up in the correct place; everything else will be off, and you'll have to ovalize the holes.  What you do instead is mock up the installation and mark the first hole.  Remove, drill, install the first hold and mark the next.  Remove, drill, re-install, mark the last hole.  Remove, drill, reinstall.  It's a Zen thing and cannot be rushed.  (Try at your own peril - there are countless ways they'll punish you if you do.)

But you end up with a beautiful and functional setup that protects you from road spray better than plastic fenders, and that lasts for years.  And quiet.

Incidentally, those eyebolt fasteners VO and Honjo use are fiddly and fussy and are just dying to fall apart when you try to install them, so be sure you've got a blanket or something similar beneath where you're working, otherwise one some of the pieces will disappear.

These are perfect.   I didn't install these, Peter Weigle did.


On 11/20/19 12:13 PM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
The old clunky metal fenders in days of yore did. The fenders from velo orange are silent and come with leather washers to make sure there are no rattles etc.

Fender install can be an art!  So make sure you tell your REI people you want artisanal-level install work and to follow the Velo Orange instructions ☺😀

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 11:57:11 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

    Alex - don’t the metal fenders rattle going over bumps? We use a
    path so every 12 inches we hit seams in the concrete. I’ll
    reconsider if they really are quiet.

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    On Nov 20, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus
    Bicycles <482...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote:

    
    Noise!?  In theory, if the fenders are properly installed and
    there's sufficient clearance between the fender and tire they
    should be near silent.  Once in a while a stone might run up
    through there but I'd say for that minor/seldom heard quirk the
    advantages of metal are worth it (Stiffer, better looking, longer
    lasting, plastic is an environmental nightmare 😊)

    On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 11:37:16 AM UTC-5, Bicycle
    Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

        Alex, lovely! Are they metal, though? I don’t want the noise
        metal fenders make. I’ll check out the ESI grips!

        Stem swap. Alright. I’m going to attempt this today. I will
        be a nervous wreck the whole time, but I suppose if I really
        mess something up I can go back to REI and do the walk of
        shame and maybe the mechanics will think it’s funny instead
        of pathetic. I *might* got this! 😂

        Sent from my iPad

        > On Nov 20, 2019, at 6:58 AM, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus
        Bicycles <482...@gmail.com> wrote:
        >
        > Leah check out velo orange for fenders...here’s a pic of
        their 650b wavy fenders on a Clem:
        >
        >
        https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx0LvYFBzKD/?igshid=1jmglpf4h6t48
        <https://www.instagram.com/p/Bx0LvYFBzKD/?igshid=1jmglpf4h6t48>
        >
        > Also check out ESI grips, they’re my fav, come in a TON of
        colors, musa and they feel “warmer” in colder weather.
        >
        > A stem swap is fairly easy and you’re totally capable!
         Slide off your grip/shifters on one side, remove bar, swap
        stem and reverse install.  Set aside 30-60 mins.
        >
        > You got this!
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