Deacon Patrick! Long time no hear— it’s great to see you back commenting on the 
forums again. Here’s hoping we’ll see lots more of your thoughtful and 
insightful posts in the future. The web’s not the same without you friend. All 
the best,

~Mark 
Raleigh, NC

> On Nov 16, 2019, at 14:21, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm 200 lbs and ride my fixed gear Quickbeam on most everything as my gofast 
> MTB, much as you describe using your future hillybike. I love it. So long as 
> you ride "light" (unweight the saddle for the technical bits), you'll do 
> fine. I expect the Susie is beefier than the QB. Grin.
> 
> However, I would suggest you may want to consider switching the roles of the 
> Hunq and hillybike. I've ridden the prototype Gus for 9 months and it takes 
> loads on rough roads, loose dirt, mud, rocks, climbs, descents, even better 
> than the Hunq due to the long wheelbase and wide tires. My Hunq is my gofast 
> wintery bike (it's converted to fixed gear) and it is brilliant for that. If 
> you do go that route, the Gus is the way to go. Or go nuts and get one of 
> each. Grin.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
>> On Saturday, November 16, 2019 at 5:05:14 AM UTC-7, David Wadstrup wrote:
>> Good morning,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m seriously considering buying one of Rivendell’s forthcoming Hillibikes 
>> and am having a difficult time deciding between the Gus and Susie.  Would 
>> you mind weighing in with your opinion? So far, I’ve got 1 vote for the Gus, 
>> 2 for the Susie. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As many of you  might know, the Susie is a lighter weight frame available 
>> for lighter weight riders.  The earlier promotional writing listed the 
>> cut-off at 165lbs, though the most recent email advertising the impending 
>> sale changed this figure to 180lbs.  It’s also stipulated that it’s not the 
>> bike for camping-weight loads of 25+ lbs.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I weigh 170lbs, and will never load whichever frame I choose with any 
>> appreciable weight other than myself. I’m the proud owner of a Hunq that 
>> takes care of any loaded off-road-ish rides, and am interested in keeping 
>> the Gus/Susie rack and basket free. It’ll be a dedicated, no load trail 
>> bike.  And I’m not a hard-riding trail rider either — no aggressive 
>> downhilling or sizable jumps. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> So, given my weight and purpose, which would you suggest?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Oh, also, before you answer…. one question for those of you who might have 
>> this kind of technical information…. the Gus comes with a threadless stem, 
>> the Susie with a quill.  It’s been my understanding that a quill stem set-up 
>> weights a bit more than threadless. Is this correct? The actual stem is 
>> heavier, of course.  But then the steerer of the threadless set-up will be 
>> quite a bit longer and heavier vs. the quill. Does any one known what the 
>> approximate weight difference is between the two? I believe I once 
>> read(maybe in a Riv Reader?) that the quill set-up weighs about 8oz more. 
>> For those of you who know, is this close to accurate or even in the 
>> ballpark?  I ask because the Susie’s lighter tubed weight savings is 12 oz, 
>> and I’m wondering how much of the this savings will be offset by its heavier 
>> stem.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyways, thanks for listening. Please let me know what you think and help 
>> stop me from driving myself crazy. 
>> 
> 
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