Thanks for the feedback, my 'question' was what those who've ridden both 
thought about the ride differences, specifically around the long stays. I 
know that as unconventional as they are, Grant knows what he's doing and 
had good reason to do it - but I felt that those reasons might not apply as 
much to me as they do to him. I can imagine it makes the bike more 
comfortable over bumps, and I've even noticed that with the Sam's 455mm 
stays. But it's hard to shake the traditional thought that long stays = 
less nimble, less fun bike. For instance, the Long Haul Trucker does not 
pull off the long stays very well in terms of handling, but I am 
understanding more and more that there are a bunch of factors at play with 
the geometry to make the longer chainstays work, not to mention the tubing 
choices. 

I hope to get the chance to experience one myself one day, but not many 
Rivendells here in BC (Canada) 

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