Thank you!  The front rack is a custom that I bought with the frame. It’s
as deep as Marks rack or similar but wider. It’s as wide as the Acorn rando
box. It attaches to the fork by boxing out the brake. I decided to splurge
on Paul Centerpull centermount brakes and the normal ways these would have
been difficult at best.

Honestly if I don’t get decent life out of this cassette I’ll go 9 speed
11-40 index in order to try to get better steel. BTW the FD is an Ultegra.

I really like the narrow double as an alternative to a 1X or triple when
combined with the wider range cassette. BTW if you go with the 34-46 and
11-40 you’ll be right at the gear capacity of the XT 9 speed speed Shadow
RD (41 teeth)

There are higher tooth capacity RD. For example the Microshift Advent will
shift a 42 and has 47 tooth gear capacity. It also has a clutch. It is only
supposed to work with their shifters so friction shifting solves that.

John



On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:51 AM Pancake <[email protected]> wrote:

> What a great range with this setup! When my triple crankset is worn I'm
> hoping to replace it with a similar setup to yours (though in 2x9) with a
> Sugino or Silver double in front and probably with 34-46 because I'm a
> heavy fellow surrounded by mountains that need the easier gearing. I'll
> probably stick to a Shimano XT front deraileur too. But this was super
> helpful info, thanks a million!
>
> Separately: what is that front rack? I'm looking for an odd size (about
> 8"x8" +/- 1") platform top for under $100 to fit a one-off ILE "demi"
> porteur bag and that looks like a good fit. The only good options I've
> found are:
> Blackburn Bootlegger $60
> <https://www.backcountry.com/blackburn-bootlegger-front-rack#>
> SimWorks Obento $160
> <https://www.sim.works/products/obento-rack?variant=12537904791653>
>
> VERY handsome ride, only downside seems to be it's so well appointed and
> suited that maybe you won't need another bike after that!
>
> Abe
>
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 5:31:39 AM UTC-8, John McBurney wrote:
>>
>> I want to share my latest build with the group to show what I’ve done
>> with the drivetrain. When I was thinking about this I read as much as I
>> could in different forums, but at the end there was a certain amount of a
>> leap of faith involved. I want to share with this group as others may have
>> a similar inclination.
>>
>> First about the bike, it’s a custom Carver low trail rando Ti frame with
>> a Soma low trail caliper brake fork recently acquired from list member Luke
>> Heller.
>>
>> Now about the drivetrain, in summary it’s a wide range 2x8 with Dura Ace
>> 9 speed bar cons. The crankset is the heart of the system: Shimano CX 50.
>> This is a great sifting crank, 46/36. The smallest ring it can take is 34
>> with the 110 mm bcd. The rear derailleur is a 9 speed Shimano XT long cage.
>>
>> I wanted to run a lower than 1:1 low final drive. I found the new wide
>> range cassettes offered by manufacturers such as Sun Race, Box and
>> Microshift really interesting. I chose an 8 speed Sun Race 11-40. It is an
>> all steel unit. Nicer designs with alloy spiders start at 9 speed. I wanted
>> 8 speed in order to have non fiddly friction shifting. I heard that wear
>> may be an issue with the lower end 8 speed cassette and if that’s true I
>> may try to convert to 9 speed indexing, although that may mean sourcing a
>> long cage road derailleur.
>>
>> The RD will shift a 36 cog so in order to shit the 40 requires an
>> extension link which lowers the top jockey wheel. Wolf Tooth makes these
>> (Road Link and Goat Link) but so does Sunrace. I bought the Sunrace as it
>> is cheaper and I was more confident it would work with the Sunrace
>> cassette. The gear capacity of the RD is 41 teeth. With this setup the gear
>> range is 39 so no problem. Cross chain 46-40 causes rub on the foo of the
>> FD and of course should be avoided anyway. I haven’t found the lack of a
>> clutch to be an issue, but I did source a Microshift Advent clutch long
>> cage RD if I change my mind. The XT is much prettier IMO.
>>
>> The resultant gear range is below with a nice high of 113 and a low of 24
>> with nice steps in between.
>>
>> So far I’d say it works great! 8 speed is the sweet spot for friction.
>> I’ve had no problem with ghost shifts under power. There is excellent
>> tactile feedback when shifting.
>>
>> So in summary, this works extremely well. The parts are available an
>> affordable. Highly recommended!
>>
>>
>>
>> 113.688.9
>> 96.175.2
>> 83.365.2
>> 69.454.3
>> 56.844.5
>> 44.634.9
>> 36.828.8
>> 31.224.5
>>
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