I don't own a QB/SO/Frank Jones, but used the same approach as Deacon 
Patrick described to try different gear ranges in a more traditional 
horizontal track end and keep axle movement as minimal as possible.  My 
frame also had more limited tire clearance but when using a Surly dingle 
cog for fixed with no rear brake I had much more room to work with and no 
brake pad alignment issues.  You may or may not experience any issues or 
matters regarding chainline, depending what changes you make.  I'm not a 
chainline snob, and certainly still a novice when it comes to all this 
stuff, but did learn quite a bit when I first began messing around with 
singlespeeds and fixed gear builds and did end up finding some quirks 
regarding chainline, such as:

Different cog spacing/chainline between freewheel and fixed cogs on a flip 
flop hub.
One of my builds included a White Industries 17/19 Dos Eno on the flip side 
and a Surly Dingle fixed cog with same 17/19 spread on the flop side, with 
a matching 2 tooth difference on a double crank (which would keep the axle 
in the same exact spot in either combo.)  I thought I'd just use the outer 
chainring and 17t with either the freewheel or fixed side and the inner 
chainring with the 19t either freewheel or fixed.

WARNING: Don't try shimming your fixed cog on the hub.  I briefly tried 
this to get the Surly cog to match the freewheel chainline but this does 
not allow enough lock ring thread engagement.  Ask me how I know?  I 
stripped the outermost lock ring threads upon a hard skid-stop as the cog 
unthreaded itself and overpowered the lockring!)

The spacing was off enough that the 17t fixed and outer chainring 
combo would bind a little, I could reduce this by slackening the chain a 
little but then crank engagement in fixed was less desirable with the 
slack.  I also found that I wanted to gear up a little more with fixed so 
my matching 17/19 combo was good in theory to make the most of an otherwise 
limited range of axle movement in the dropout/track ends but not so good in 
practice.

I ultimately changed the rings around and flipped them inside out, placing 
a larger 44t chainring on the INSIDE of the double crank and a 42t 
chainring on the OUTER position, which gave better chainline with the 
larger inner ring and fixed cogs with the higher gearing and good chainline 
with the lower geared freewheel in the outer 42t ring.

This improved a couple things, but then eliminated the possibility of the 
44x19t fixed combo because of the axle movement needed and brake pad 
alignment and under caliper clearance issues.  I'd have needed for further 
reduce tire width or remove the rear brake entirely to get them all to 
work, which would otherwise eliminate either the freewheeling option (if 
removing rear brake) or eliminate the benefits of a slighter lower 44/19 
fixed gearing which otherwise worked nicely with my chosen semi-slick tire 
for occasional off-roadish detours (if going back to a narrower slick tire.)

All in all I had a lot of fun with all the gearing/axle/chainline 
experimentation but in the end I realized that in practice and with my 
local terrain I could handle a much simpler 1 tooth difference in a 
flip-flop fixed/freewheel and will eventually finish an updated build with 
15t fixed cog/16t freewheel and a single chainring plus outer chainguard 
(still a work in progress for various reasons.)

Of course, I'd likely be singing a different tune if I had the adjustment 
range of the QB dropouts and would keep the greater gearing spread.  Best 
of luck on your rebuild!

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ 



On Monday, October 14, 2019 at 6:24:57 PM UTC-4, j.schwartz wrote:

> Curious if the 8-tooth "max" spread can be pushed by a tooth or two?
> Is that just a conservative figure or has anyone successfully run a larger 
> (9 or 10 tooth) chain ring size difference on their Quickbeam or Simpleone 
> and still had good brake pad alignment on the rear wheel?
> I'm rebuilding my SO and I have a 41/32 crank which is only 1 tooth larger 
> than the spec.
> The freewheel is 20t and the wheels are 700/43.
>
>
>

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