Understood.  That bike you are describing would be really appealing, but 
it's most certainly not a Legolas.  There are a number of vendors who will 
sell you a 27.5 x 2.2" road bike, so you can run Thunder Burts or 48mm Rene 
Herse tires.  Rivendell has the 650B Atlantis, which I own and absolutely 
adore, and I have the Thunder Burts on-hand to put onto it soon .  I 
perceive no penalties for it being "overbuilt". It's not uncomfortable for 
being stiff, becuase it has huge cushy tires. It doesn't push back on my 
legs when I pedal it, like the planing folks insist, at least not to the 
extent that I can notice it.  It's a couple pounds heavier than a 
hypothetical 'dream Rivendell' frame.

Trust me I get the appeal of a 27.5x2.2" road bike.  I want one.  I was in 
Santa Barbara earlier this week and tried to schedule an appointment to 
visit Stinner Frameworks, because I wanted to check out the Refugio.  That 
thing looks really fun to ride. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 7:49:14 PM UTC-7, S wrote:
>
> Really, I am just describing my dream Rivendell. Light, 650b, cantis. 
>
> Do I *need* to be able to run 50s? No. Do I want the option? Yes.
>
> On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 11:01:05 AM UTC-7, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 4:41:39 PM UTC-7, S wrote:
>>>
>>> I wish Rivendell would bring back the Legolas not because I am a racer 
>>> but rather because I want a bike for day rides on mixed surfaces. For this 
>>> purpose, the Atlantis is overbuilt and the AHH lacks tire clearance. A 650b 
>>> Legolas would be even better.
>>>
>>
>> I'm curious as to what kind of mixed surfaces you ride on, such that the 
>> AHH lacks tire clearance, because the AHH is supposed to fit tires up to 
>> 44mm wide (san fenders). That means UCI race-spec 33mm cyclocross tires 
>> will fit. I've ridden 38mm wide Compass Barlow Pass tires on pretty rough 
>> trails, and didn't feel like the tires were holding me back.
>>
>

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