We can help do the calc's for the handlebar set up (aka handlebar XY 
coordinates) if you want.  A (w)Right 0mm stem or 30mm would be a great set 
up with a short reach, wide n stiff bar.   (our 30mm stems are heading back 
into production shortly, we have a really solid builder in new england and 
new prototypes are looking good, with a 4 bolt faceplate, super accurate 
tolerances, and really clean brazing)   We recommend going 31.8 for the 
bars, as it really ties the front end of the bike together better.  Stiffer 
= better steering, esp in the rough stuff.  A steel stem and stiff bars 
makes a quill stem bike point where you want it to go, not where it feels 
like going.   We've set those stems up on Clems and Atlantis builds with 
long top tubes to good results.  Fine handling at all speeds, with or 
without a load.  We've taken them mountain biking.  Better than a 120mm 
technomic and floppy swept back bars.  If you want to really ride the bike 
hard off road, the stiffer set up is the way to go.  The new Spank Flare 25 
bars are a fantastic choice.  I helped design them, so I'm biased, but if 
you want a short reach, stiff, really strong bar, they're hard to beat.  
Almost all dirt drop bars are not off road rated.  Nitto and Spank are it.  
Spank bars pass Enduro mtn bike testing standards, which means: really 
tough!  If you have ridden or seen cowchippers, the Spank bars are similar, 
but more comfortable and stronger.  

I don't get on here much, running Analog and starting our new frame n parts 
business is a huge time suck.  I'll try to check for follow up ?s, or just 
email me.  

-James 


On Wednesday, June 26, 2019 at 7:09:28 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
>  Depending on when the pre-order opens, I plan to have funds available for 
> one of the new Hillibikes. For various reasons, I have been mulling over 
> the idea of running the bike with the nice wide pair of 48 Noodles I've had 
> kicking around since dismantling my old Kuwahara. Coincidentally, the 
> latest Blahg post features the Zero stem from Analog and Riv's experiment 
> with installing a stem backward.
>
> Eventually I see my Hilli with an upright Riv bar, whether the bullmoose 
> Bosco in my parts bin or some other flavor. But as I still do the majority 
> of my longer rides with drop bar bikes, I thought it would be fun to set 
> the bike up this way for a while. I might even try to configure it so I can 
> swap the bar and stem with a minimum of hassle so I can change around when 
> the situation warrants. I haven't done the calculations, but to mimic the 
> reach on my road bikes, I assume I will need to bring the bars in quite a 
> bit on this bike to take back some of the top tube territory, and one of 
> the Analog stems should get me in the ballpark.
>
> Anybody else contemplating a drop bar for their Hillibike? I think a few 
> folks have tried the zero stem, but can't recall if it was here or iBob. 
> Now I just have to figure out whether the zero or the 30 (or a reverse 
> stem!) will work best for me, as it's a pricey piece of kit.
>

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