I've tried the Moustache probably a dozen times over the years (all the
original model) and, while it is not as uncomfortable as some other bars
I've used, it is never good for more than a few miles. But I always found
the curves the most comfortable part, and that is where I positioned the
brake levers.

I recently swapped out the M bar on my Dahon folder for a Surly Open bar,
the model with no rise, and trimmed the ends severely, and installed road
levers, again at the apex of the curves. Still not as comfortable as a road
drop bar, but better than the M bar for sure because it let me set the bar
level with saddle but without extending the reach excessively.

The Open has less reach and more width (66 versus 53 cm), and the sweepback
angle is considerably shallower; it also comes in a model with rise.
Perhaps worth a look. IIRC, though, only steel and black.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 5:39 AM Christopher Cote <
christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've got a question for the collective. I'm looking to get a little more
> upright in life. I am considering Albatross bars. My concern is that I have
> tried a few times to get comfortable on Moustache, and later Albastache
> bars, and never really gelled with them. I didn't find the forward position
> comfortable at all, and my hands would fall into a position on the sweeps
> that would just send jolts of pain up my wrists. Is there anyone out there
> that had a similar reaction to Moustache bars, but found comfort in
> Albatross bars? Or am I wasting time and money trying out the Albatross
> bars? Would Ergon "paddle-type" grips help with the wrist pain thing?
>
> As a counterpoint, I find the hoods and ramps of drop bars acceptable, and
> on my off-road focused mountain and fat bikes, I like "alt" bars with 25-45
> degrees of sweep.
>
> I think I'd be pretty happy with the new Wavie bar, but that is very
> similar to the before mentioned bars on my off-road bikes. I want something
> different than my existing road (drop) and off-road (mid sweep) bars.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
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