One thing that I never understood about the design Riv ended up with is 
compensating for the variable angles as a result of the wheel change. It 
appears with their angled dropout* design a wheel closer to the seat tube 
steepens the ST and HT angle while a wheel farther away from the seat tube 
would slacken them. 

I road a QB for a while and regretfully sold it. It was a great bike. I didn't 
slide the wheel though

*all dropouts obviously had a measurement of their angle. In this context we 
all know what we all mean :)

JL
sf, Ca


> On Feb 7, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Max - The Fitz custom is going to be only tangentially "Matt Chester-ish" and 
> will include influences from every bike I've owned in the last 20 years. 
> Here's the BikeCad drawing (before the dropout angle change). The biggest 
> inputs are 60mm G-One tires and a 170mm dropper post. Planning for future 
> singlespeedability is just a nice-to-have, like dynamo wiring. "As long as 
> it's custom, why not get exactly what I want?"
> 
> Jeremy - Thank you! I passed your info along to John. 
> 
> 
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>  
> 
>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:50:40 AM UTC-8, Max S wrote:
>> Very curious to find out how this turns out -- mainly in how a builder 
>> executes a riff on the Matt Chester concepts... I'm contemplating a bike 
>> like that in the near future, so please post photos when it's done! 
>> 
>> - Max "it's good to have projects" 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 12:53:52 AM UTC+2, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>> I'm having a custom bike built, and it will have slider dropouts for 
>>> singlespeed use. 
>>> I want the builder to angle the dropouts like my Quickbeam's, so I can 
>>> change the gears without adjusting the brake shoe height or angle. 
>>> 
>>> The Quickbeam dropouts are angled ~20* relative to the ground, and about 
>>> 10* relative to the stay. 
>>> The dropout slot angle ALSO looks like it is parallel to the brake shoes. 
>>> To my mind, this is the key fact. Is it? 
>>> 
>>> The new bike's seat stay angle is more acute than the QB's, and its BB is 
>>> lower. Do the relative angles not really matter, as long as the dropout 
>>> slot is parallel to the brake shoe angle?
>>> 
>>> Philip
>>> Santa Rosa, CA 
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