Derek,

I agree on the rational for wider tires (right now its the only thing 
keeping me from buying a hillborne). 

In response to your questions:

   1. When I ran 650bx2.4s on my 52 Clem, I had chain rub between the tire 
   and chain using a 110 BB when in my lowest gear (throwing on a 113 BB 
   solved that). Looking at my Clem right next to my computer, I see no issue 
   with having a triple as my 38T chainring mounted inboard has 6.5mm of space 
   between it and the chainstay and the bashguard mounted outboard has 11.7 mm 
   of space between it and the chainstay (this is slightly smaller than a 44T 
   chainring, so the clearances would shrink, but it should still work. 
   Gearing wise, the wider and larger diameter tires will slow you down a 
   smidge, so that 44 tooth may not see much use (and may be worth adding a 
   chainguard instead).
   2. The width issue I cannot respond to directly, but if you go tubeless, 
   no more worries of pinch flats (not sure if those rims are tubeless 
   compatible though).

Hopefully this helps
Collin

On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 11:54:31 AM UTC-8, Derek Atkins wrote:
>
> Hi all. Picked up a lightly used Joe Appaloosa complete last year and 
> enjoyed tinkering with bar set ups and cruising around town. However in the 
> end it was too similar to the other bikes I have from a purpose standpoint. 
> Luckily I picked up a blemished Clem Smith Jr from from the guys at Walnut 
> Creek a few weeks ago. 
>
> Why go Clem? In the end, wider tires (I didn’t have anything between 50ish 
> on my all road steel and my fat bike). I’m in West Michigan so we have lots 
> of options from miles of gravel to rail trail to singletrack. The Clem lets 
> me sit pretty in that 2.3 range, stretch out with those chainstays, and 
> have a great all around town, gravel, singletrack dirt-forward option. Not 
> that the Joe couldn’t, but I like the options the Clem give me to go with 
> more rubber. I think the only things I’ll miss is the double top tube and 
> those beautiful lugs :( 
>
> Now to some questions... 
> 1) I’m poaching parts from the Joe when I can. I have the Silver triple 
> from Riv. Will that work on the Clem or will the chainline and clearances 
> get missed up because the Clem has a wider back end? Anyone know if I can 
> switch the Silver triple to a double with some creative gearing using what 
> I’ve got? Or am I better off finding a true double? 
>
> 2) I have the stock AlexRim i19s but I’m worried about running wider than 
> 2.1 tires on them. Should I be? 
>
> Thanks for the help! 
>
> And if anyone wants a 58cm Joe with choco-moose bars let me know! 

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