Jonathan asked some comparative questions.  

1. BMC Road vs Roadini. I had two BMC Roads.  I sold one to pay for the 
Roadini.  The comparison is they are both great road bikes, with just a 
slightly different personality.  The BMC Road is more 2019 mainstream.  The 
Roadini forces you to embrace being different.  I still have the other BMC 
Road.  It lives at my moms house and I rode it over Christmas, including a 
solo 150-mile day on 12/26.  It was awesome.  Current BMC road sizing is a 
bit different and I prefer my 59 over the current 58 or 60, so my BMC Road 
is not easily replaceable.  The Roadini is replaceable.  I'm not selling 
the Roadini like I've given up on it, and must move it out.  I'm offering 
it up for sale, but I'll be delighted to keep it.  I might rotate the BMC 
Road and the Roadini as the 'guest bike' at my mom's house.  

2. 650B Atlantis vs Appaloosa.  The one and only thing I didn't like about 
the Appaloosa was the toe clip overlap (TCO).  I own enough bikes that have 
no TCO that bikes with TCO bug me a little.  The more offroad I ride them, 
the more it bugs me.  The slower I ride them, the more it bugs me.  My 
Appaloosa was intended to be an off road loaded touring and S24O machine, 
which meant off road and low speeds, so the TCO bugged me twice.  The 56cm 
650B Atlantis doesn't have TCO.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA  

On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 1:27:37 PM UTC-8, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> Bill, 
>
> I know you also have two BMC Road bikes. Why did you choose to keep those 
> over the selling one of the Roadini?   
>
> Also I am curious how you thought the Joe Appaloosa compares to the 
> Atlantis. My understanding they are similar bikes, except for wheel size, 
> and you previously had the Joe. 
>
> I love the builds. Great bikes. 
>
>
> On Thursday, January 3, 2019 at 10:44:53 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
> > The Rosco Bubbe is definitely claimed.  Three frames for sale remain 
> > 
> > 
> > 1. 57cm Leo Roadini Grilver, $600 
> > 2. 59cm Niner RLT9, $600 
> > 3. 58cm, Gunnar singlespeed, $600 
> > 
> > 
> > Let me know if you are interested 
> > 
> > 
> > BL in EC 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:17:39 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
> > It appears there will be a match for Jamison on the Rosco Bubbe 
> step-through.  The other three remain available.   
> > 
> > 
> > Bill 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 2:36:52 PM UTC-8, jamison brosseau 
> wrote: 
> > Sent PM on rosco bubbe mixte. 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:44:32 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
> > Front Story.  Four of my framesets are for sale.  Complete bikes or 
> partial builds can be discussed.  I'm 5'10" with a 75.5cm Saddle height. 
> 86cm PBH.   
> > 
> > 
> > 1. 58cm Gunnar singlespeed.  It's 58cm to the top of the seat clamp.  
> The effective horizontal top tube length is 57cm center to center.  130mm 
> rear O.L.D.  Imagine a 55cm caliper-brake Hillborne with track ends.  
> Imagine a MUSA-tig Quickbeam/Simpleone with caliper brakes. $600 
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Seatpost.  A complete would be ~$1200. Link to Flickr 
> Photo 
> > 
> > 
> > 2.  54cm Rosco Bubbe 27.5" step through mountain frame.  This is the 
> Roman-designed Medium Mountain Step Through.  Imagine a tigged medium 
> Cheviut with cantilever brakes and clearance for 27.5 x 2.2" tires.  $600 
> Frame/Fork/Headset/Seatpost  A complete would be ~$2000 Link to Flickr 
> Photo 
> > 
> > 
> > 3.  57cm Leo Roadini Grilver.  I've gotten my 1000 mile test ride in. 
> It's an awesome road bike, and I likely will buy another at another time.  
> I have a bunch of nice road bikes that I can't replace, so this one is 
> available.  $600 Frame/Fork/Headset/Seatpost.  A complete would be 
> ~$1400 Link to Flickr Photo 
> > 
> > 
> > 4.  59cm Niner RLT9 Aluminum.  Aluminum frame, carbon fork, disc braked 
> all-road/gravel/alternative adventure touring frame. It takes 700c wheels 
> or 650B.  Max tire width is ~43mm.  $600 Frame/Fork/Headset.  A complete 
> would be ~$2300 Link to Flickr photo 
> > 
> > 
> > Backstory.  I've got a ton of bikes.  I have decided to log 1000 miles 
> on Strava on each of my bikes, focusing on 2 or 3 bikes at a time.  Three 
> of these bikes have reached their 1000 mile quota and are going to be 
> parked for a while anyway.  This is your opportunity to grab them instead 
> of letting them sit in the stable.  The Gunnar singlespeed is a cute 
> novelty to me, but singlespeed riding is not something I need.  I've got 
> 1000 miles of trying it to prove I CAN do it, but I don't need to do it.  
> Having only one gear gets me nothing.  Maybe it's time for you to do a 1000 
> mile experiment, or maybe you know singlespeed is for you.  The Rosco Step 
> Through has not been ridden 1000 miles, but I want to replace it with a 
> 56cm 650B Atlantis frameset.  Rivendell has 14 of them in stock, so if you 
> buy this Rosco, you'll indirectly help Rivendell manage their inventory.  
> The Leo Roadini is awesome, but I can always get another.  The Niner RLT9 
> is awesome as well, but I'm convinced that if I'm going to run a 650B disc 
> road bike, I want to be able to run >2.1" mountain bike tires.  This frame 
> is limited to 43mm wide tires, which in my book makes the disc brakes 
> unnecessary.  There may be a Black Mountain disc bike in my future, or a 
> custom Steve Rex, but my Niner experiment is sufficiently complete.   
> > 
> > 
> > Also available for sale:  A Lauf Grit suspension fork  $500.  Link to 
> Flickr Photo 
> > 
> > 
> > Let me know if you are interested in any of the above.  I'd be delighted 
> with local sales, but bikeflights shipping is possible and negotiable in 
> the pricing of the stuff you buy.   
> > 
> > 
> > Bill Lindsay 
> > El Cerrito, CA 
>
>

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