Mark:

If you look up "53 cm Atlantis LWB test ride" here in this group, you'll 
find my thoughts on the subject.  I know you asked about the 56 cm but I 
think the 53 cm would not be much different.  I ride a 58 cm Atlantis & 
have an 85 cm PBH.  Riv's current sizing would put me on a 53 cm.  My PBH 
is in the overlap between 56 & 58 on the sizing used in 2003.  

The short version is the longer wheelbase makes a noticeable improvement in 
comfort (which is already good on an Atlantis), yet does not give up 
anything in handling or manuverability.  IIRC, Rivendell has a standard 
build on the current models that's similar to the F&F of the Toyo & 
Waterfords (please check on this).  You get a heck of lot of cluck for your 
buck.  

dougP

On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 6:25:40 AM UTC-8, esoterica etc wrote:
>
> Howdy all,
>
> I'm wondering if anyone out there has any comparative riding experience 
> with both the new 650b Atlantis in a 56cm, and the older-style 700c 
> Atlantis in a size 58cm. My pbh is 87.5 which would put me on the 650 if I 
> were to buy new, and the 700 if I were to buy used. I did own a 58 Atlantis 
> many years ago, before the wide-tire phenomenon really got momentum. Even 
> though I never rode anything wider than a 38 on my Atlantis, I just thought 
> that bike was the bee's knees. Unfortunately, times were tight and I ended 
> up having to sell it. But I'm now in a position to afford another Atlantis, 
> although I would have to go with the 56cm/650b size if I were to buy new 
> from Rivendell. Since I live on the other side of the country, a visit to 
> their shop to test ride one is pretty much out of the question.
>
> In the years since selling the Atlantis, I've built up a handful of 
> Riv'ified bikes that I've found on Craigslist and garage sales, mostly old 
> 80's MTB frames. I think I've gotten to the point now that I'm really 
> comfortable and happy on the 26" platform and have been really enjoying 
> riding tires between 40-53mm (1.6-2.1"). I've never really ridden anything 
> 650b before, but I feel that I might be more inclined to veer in that 
> direction because 650b is closer to 26" than it is to 700c, and the ability 
> to ride slightly wider tires is certainly a influential factor. But I also 
> can't shake the memories of just how darn good my old 700c Atlantis felt. 
>
> So I'm hoping there's folks on the list (maybe Bill Lindsay, from your 
> recent spontaneous ride on the 650b Atlantis with Grant?) who have ridden 
> and can chime in on their impressions of one or the other, what you liked 
> and didn't like, and which would you choose and for what reason(s)? Thanks 
> for lending an ear, and hope y'all are having a great holiday season. All 
> the best,
>
> ~Mark
>

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