Tim is perfectly right: if putting 38s on a Riv Road, with the benefits and
liabilities discussed, means that it gets ridden, then the change will be a
good one. But playing devil's advocate in support of another person's
suggestion, I do think that installing top quality skinny 700C tires and
learning how that improves the ride might also be a solution. Perhaps my
own perspective is biased because I ride fixed gears: I count pedal strike
as a real liability and take great care to minimize the risk of it. And
again, I've found 28 mm Compass ELs superbe and transforming in themselves.
But if I owned a bike that could barely clear 26s, I might switch to 650B
too.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:03 AM Tim Gavin <tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 1:18 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've never done a 650B conversion, but I'd question whether an early Riv
>> Road is the best platform: more bb drop, insufficient room for the fatter
>> 584 bsd tires (can the original Riv Roads take 650B X 42?), the ride
>> quality of the original as it was intended to be built up; and lastly, the
>> availability of Compass EL tires in the 700C width that will fit your
>> frame. My roads were built for 26" wheels and can take 32s and fenders, but
>> I find the actual-width 28 mm Elk Pass tire all I need in the way of speed
>> and comfort for road riding (these are labeled 32 and measure 27 and 29 on
>> my 19 and 21 mm rims, respectively) and even firm dirt and gravel.
>>
>
> Patrick is correct that these issues make a Riv Road nowhere near the
> "best platform" for a 650B conversion.  That would be a bike with enough
> tire width clearance to fit the same overall diameter wheel, in either
> BSD.  But a bike designed for 700 x 23 will rarely fit a 650 x 42 (same
> overall diameter).  So there's always a compromise.
>
> None of us are buying brand-new Road Standards, we're finding them used
> and making them into our own (often as a Rivendell on a budget).  But
> they're gorgeous frames that should be ridden, so I say do whatever you
> want in order to improve your riding experience.
>
> Personally, my Road Standard barely clears a 700 x 26 tire, and I vastly
> prefer the ride of a 650 x 38 (Pari-Moto or Compass) to a 700 x 26 (Grand
> Bois Cerf).  And the 38's are much more competent on dirt and gravel.
>
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