That indeed would be the theoretical reason; not age. Good point.

Next question: is there any useful and accurate *practical* guidance --
rules of thumb -- for retiring aluminum cranks, seatposts, bars, stems, and
so forth?

Bills' reply reminds me of Grant's long-ago and wonderful metaphor:
"Dolphin-like thighs" -- in contrast to sylph-like arms.

Patrick Moore, who very strangely didn't think for a minute about the
danger of riding his (What? I myself have owned them at least 15 years, and
I got them ... 2nd hand? 3d hand? 4th or 5th hand? Pro 5 Vis cranks) during
this afternoon's very pleasant fall ride.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 1:48 PM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote:

> Somebody claimed to have read somewhere that aluminum weakens over time.
>
> Patrick Moore asked for more details, and sounds skeptical.
>
> I took my materials science classes a fairly long time ago, but you are
> right to be skeptical, Patrick Moore.  Aluminum most certainly does NOT
> change material properties with just time.  Aluminum does weaken with USE
> (repeated cyclical loading).  You do not need to throw away your 20 year
> old cranks just because they are old.  You have to throw them away because
> you ride an ENORMOUS number of miles and apply MASSIVE torque to them.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 12:07:57 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> "Also, I read some somewhere(maybe a Riv Reader) that metals, and
>> aluminum in particular, weaken significantly with age."
>>
>> I'd like to see the article and review the evidence. I myself have heard
>> nothing said about age as such making metals generally, or aluminum in
>> particular, less strong. Repeated bending, corrosion, yes, but not age
>> alone. Anyone?
>>
>> Come to think of it, Jan in all his riding of vintage machines from 40s
>> and 50s has said nothing about their period cranks being dangerous.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who rides old aluminum cranks (and very old aluminum
>> cranks! 8 sp Logic, 5 sp Pro 5 Vis, Viscount/Lambert -- the one with the
>> tapered socket) and doesn't want to switch.
>>
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