Tully, just to be clear, I didn't mention stoutness..they're both plenty stout 
to me at 190 pounds. For me the Cheviot has a lighter-feeling "road bike" ride, 
which Adam may be reflecting as stiffer.  

Overall both felt plush to me, especially in comparison to my current Roadini. 
But like you say, tires matter..the Roadini 700c wheels are carrying 
significantly narrow tires than I had on the other bikes. Shorter stays, too. 

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