Shoji, thanks so much for encouraging me to have a second look - if Woom takes 
racks and fenders, this changes everything. I’m sure you’re at work and I don’t 
want to take too much of your time, but if you  don’t mind, can you tell me 
what you’ve liked about the Woom and why you felt it was lesser quality than 
the Islabike? Thanks!!!

> On Oct 3, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Shoji Takahashi <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi BBDD,
> Woom has islets for rack and/or fenders. The Woom6 is for 55" - 65".
> https://us.woombikes.com/products/6
> 
> Woom used to sell a "commuter"-style bike with racks+fenders, but sadly 
> discontinued it. I think it's a USA market thing-- they can't sell them. 
> (Looks like Woom still offers racks+fenders in EU, maybe other markets.)
> 
> This past spring, I bought my 8-yo the Woom5, and purchased fenders+rack from 
> Islabikes. (Woom is a nice bike, and much nicer than most children's bikes. 
> Islabikes is higher quality, IMHO, but I couldn't justify the $100+ 
> difference.)
> 
> Good luck!
> shoji
> Arlington MA
> 
>  
> 
> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 2:19:26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Oh Patrick, therein lies the crux. The cool factor for the teen boy. He has 
> been pretty darn accommodating to all his mother’s whims and staunch beliefs. 
> He eats homemade lunch every single day with weird things like fermented 
> pickles and homemade sourdough, and organic everything. He’ll take the 
> probiotics, drink the bone broth, be the only kid in school who bikes with 
> his mother and brother, won’t cuss, loves good, hates evil, wears a matching 
> leather bicycle cuff like mine. But this? Riding a bonafide girls’ bike that 
> appears to be from bygone times? Oh, no. He would love the Clem L but it 
> would offend the aesthetic sensibilities of the jerks that are his peers. 
> I’ve dreamed of him riding my husband’s Clem H but that top tube is just too 
> high for my 4’ 11” kid. 
> 
> The Cleary bikes don’t take racks, do they? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> > On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:34 AM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> > <[email protected] <>> wrote: 
> > 
> > We’ve gone Cleary Bikes and then a Clementine we anticipate will fit them 
> > when full grown (M so far). As an inbetween step, we could also go with a 
> > small Clementine. The “L” allows great flexability in sizing. But we’ve all 
> > lassies, and I wouldn’t have been seen dead on a “girls” bike growing up, 
> > though I’ve no problem with the idea now and most mountain bikes are nearly 
> > girls bikes anyroad. Grin. 
> > 
> > With abandon, 
> > Patrick 
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