I'm going on memory alone here, but with the first generation of orange Sams that came out around 2008, (second generation overall after the original hideous green ones with even longer top tubes), the ones with canti studs were made by Waterford and the ones without were made in Taiwan. I had a 56cm, single-top-tube, canti-studded (I ran V-brakes), orange Sam that was definitely made by Waterford. I remember noticing that canti studs were TIG'ed - not important to me as lugs were never a reason I chose Riv - I wanted high bars, clearance for large tires, V-brakes and plenty of braze-ons, and it checked all of those boxes. Eventually I realized that I wanted smaller wheels with larger tires, so I replaced it with a 650b Boulder All Road and kept on going all the way back to 26" with a pristine 1993 MB-1 whose praises I just sang in another thread.
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