LeRoy asked:

   1.   What is it, in general, that would make the new MTB supplant the 
   need for Rivendell to continue making the Clem H?

They are close to equivalent and carrying both costs too much

      2.   As a happy Clem owner, what might there be about the MTB that 
would make a difference, and in what kind of riding might the difference(s) 
be most apparent?

The ability to run wider 2.8" tires.  If you consistently slide out on your 
rougher, softer rides, or are consistently getting beaten up on your 
bumpier, rockier rides, you might be longing for 2.8" tires

      3.  As a more trivial aside, what is expected to be "fancier" about 
the MTB?

I guess I would expect joints to be fancier.  Either lugs (less likely) or 
fillets (more likely) over tigged joints.  I expect the graphics may be 
fancier.  

Bill speculative explaining Lindsay
El Cerrito,CA

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 2:09:44 PM UTC-7, LeRoy wrote:
>
> Here are two snippets from Rivendell; the first from the "Big Ol' 
> Seasonal Blowout Sale" email, the second from the Clem Smith Jr. page:
>
> *"...a new mountain bike planned for next year. Still about six months off 
> for both of those. The new bike will kind of replace the Clem H, which is 
> still the best bang for your buck in our lineup, but the frames and 
> completes we get in next week will be the last ever unfortunately. The new 
> mountain bike will be fancier fwiw."*
>
> (wrt Clem Smith Jr.) *"I/Grant think of it as a mountain bike–and the 
> frame does pass the mountain bike EN test, the toughest in the world, so 
> it’s not going to break on you."*
>
> I'm the quite happy owner of a 59cm Clem H. It suits me and my needs very 
> well. I don't know if I need a new bike. But who doesn't need the Nth 
> bike? So, I've dug around for new MTB information among the Riv posts, 
> Blugs and Blaghs yet I'm not able to answer several general questions. 
> Further, I realize that too little is known about the coming soon-ish 
> Rivendell MTB to make many definitive statements. And finally, I realize 
> that my own lack of a detailed understanding of general bike geometry 
> limits my ability to make sense of what seems to be known about the new MTB 
> as it relates to my Clem H or other bikes.
>
> So, my question(s) is/are:
>
>    1.   What is it, in general, that would make the new MTB supplant the 
>    need for Rivendell to continue making the Clem H?
>    2.   As a happy Clem owner, what might there be about the MTB that 
>    would make a difference, and in what kind of riding might the 
> difference(s) 
>    be most apparent?
>    3.   As a more trivial aside, what is expected to be "fancier" about 
>    the MTB?
>    
> Thanks for any assistance and, if my questions are too rudimentary -- or 
> too premature -- for forum discussion, don't hesitate to tell me to keep my 
> powder dry and patiently wait for the formal MTB release and more details.
>

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