Thanks for the feedback, Shoji. I love all the photos of the many ways 
you've biked with your kids!

Maybe it's not just the tall headtube, but the combo of tall headtube and 
slack headtube angle? The photo of Dave and li'l Dave on the Blahg is what 
makes me think there's a bit of a problem. The seat is just up and back 
more than seems ideal.
(Credit to Blahg: 
https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/slkjf)

If the only real effect is splayed knees, I definitely just need to try it 
out and decide if it bothers me. Maybe I'm short enough that I won't be a 
problem. I also have Albas on my MTBubbe right now, which might work better 
than the Bullmoose in the photo.

Paul in ATL

On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 11:50:16 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
> I used Yepp Mini with both my kids, and I highly recommend it. Those were 
> great rides because they were right up with me. I later had a Yepp rear 
> seat, but it wasn't the same.
>
> Yepp Mini was used on my Hunqapillar and a Surly Cross Check. The only 
> downside to either ride was that I had a very slight need to pedal with my 
> knees out. For me, it wasn't a big deal, but I know it can be bothersome to 
> some people.
>
> Why do you think long head tube would make front seat "less than ideal"? I 
> think taller head tube might improve knee clearance. Also, having front 
> seat stabilized steering on the Hunqapillar and Cross Check for me. It felt 
> similar to putting on low rider rack+bags.
>
> FWIW: I found Yepp Mini installation was easier and nicer on threaded 
> stem. I used the front seat with albatross bars, and I liked how it would 
> reach around the seat.
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 11:19:55 AM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>>
>> I know this topic comes up frequently. I've learned a lot from reading 
>> previous threads, but with the impending BOSCO BEBE and an eight month old 
>> who's anxious to get on a bike, I've got some decisions to make, and I'd 
>> love some input.
>>
>> I'm pretty set on a front seat. It just seems like more fun. I'd love to 
>> test a few seats out (front and back) before I buy anything, but I'm not 
>> sure I have that option. Does anyone in the Atlanta area have a baby seat 
>> or two I can test fit/test ride on a few different bikes? I'd really like 
>> to test one of the Yepp models, but any seat I could try out would be 
>> really helpful.
>>
>> My big question is, given my stable and the BOSCO BEBE, should I buy the 
>> best seat for one of my current bikes, even if it's not the one I want, or 
>> should I buy the seat I think I want, Yepp, mount it on a less than ideal 
>> bike. Then shuffle the stable and the checkbook around till I get a bike 
>> that works with the seat.
>>
>> I know the normal people answer is buy a seat for your current bike and 
>> just ride, but I'm hoping to take lots of great rides over the next 2-3 
>> years, so I can justify a dedicated bike/baby seat combo. I'm just not sure 
>> what I want that to look like yet.
>>
>> Here's the bikes I've got that will work with a seat. Has anyone used a 
>> front seat on any similar bikes? How'd it work out?
>>
>> 1. MTBUBBE - appears that the long head tube makes front seats less than 
>> ideal. I'm not sure about the handling with an extra 20 lbs towards the 
>> front.
>>
>> 2. 1984 Trek 720 - The frame is relatively light, but it rides well with 
>> a load. The clamp spot for a front seat seems more reasonable, but it might 
>> still be tight and the top tube is completely horizontal. I could try it 
>> with riser bars instead of drops.
>>
>> 3. 1985 or so Peugeot MTB (Crazy Horse) - It's an 80s MTB. Super fun to 
>> ride. No idea how the seat would fit and how it would handle. Any thoughts?
>>
>> 4. 90s Cannondale MTB - Pretty similar to the Peugeot, but nicer, newer 
>> parts and a threadless stem.
>>
>> I'm not really interested in trailers right now, even though it's likely 
>> that I'll use one eventually.
>>
>> Maybe a rear seat is the way to go?
>> Does anyone have any tips on how to determine whether a front seat will 
>> work well on a particular bike?
>>
>> My guess is that in the end this is all pretty child-dependent, and I 
>> shouldn't sink to much time and money into this until I know that my child 
>> like to ride bikes. So maybe I just need to experiment a little bit. How 
>> would y'all solve this "problem".
>>
>> Paul in ATL
>>
>> P.S. Anyone selling a used child seat in good condition? I'm your market. 
>> DM me.
>>
>

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