I have a Clem and Jones Plus. When I lived in California and rode trails 
that were beautifully groomed a bike like Clem was just fine. Then I moved 
to PA and all my local trails are gnarly, root filled, technical 
singletrack that are designed with modern mountain bikes in mind. Sure, I 
could ride the Clem on them but with how slow I'd be going I might as well 
just hike. So I started looking for a 21st century MTB and found Jones 
bikes. The design philosophies of the two companies are so similar I felt 
like I couldn't go wrong with a Jones. And I'm glad I got one because it's 
a blast. It rolls over anything, feels stable on everything but still very 
maneuverable, and good disc brakes offer one finger braking and total 
relief from the exhausted and cramped hands and wrists I used to get from 
underbiking on tough singletrack.

On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 11:29:40 PM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> I was curious if anyone has ridden both a Jones DWB is LEB and can compare 
> to a Joe or MIT Atlantis. The new SWB complete is $1800 and seems to share 
> some design philosophy. Jones on the podcast sounds like Grant talking 
> about bike design. Debating how I can fit this in my bike collection and 
> what I would sell and where there would be overlap. Thinking of selling my 
> Sam to buy a Jones. 
>
> http://www.jonesbikes.com/jones-plus-swb-complete-bicycle/
>
> Podcast
>
>
> https://www.behindthehandlebarspodcast.com/podcasts/2018/4/18/ep-31-jeff-jones-jones-bikes
>
>

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