Sean: I can't add much to the discussion, but I will add that very many Rivendell riders find that even very stoutly built Rivendells ride "nimbly."
Anecdote: I had a stripped down, minimal braze on (1 pr of bottle cage braze ons on dt; that's all) gofast fixie road custom made by Riv in 1999. I thought it was very light. I took it apart and gave frame and fork to Chauncey Matthews, local builder, for alterations. He picked f/f/hs/bb up and said, "Huh. Not very light." He built my dirt road bike using thin gauge heat treated tubing, even though the total bike with all accoutrements and encumbrances weighs 30.34 lb on my digital scale. But -- the point -- it has always, always, over almost 20 years felt nimble and fast even compared to at least 1 lighter frame, an all-531, standard diameter 1973 Motobecane. But I'm 175. Another point: I hear that the Roadeo is made from quite light gauge tubing in the sub-large sizes with butts of just .7 mm and .4 mm bellies; is this right? I'll be interested to hear what you end up with. BTW, that lightweight Motobecane racing bike? Of all the many bikes I've owned, it has been the best carrier of heavyish rear loads, with less upset to handling than even with much stouter frames. On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:31 AM, Sean Steinle <[email protected]> wrote: > Everything that's been said has been super helpful! Chris, your post is a > really good direct comparison for me, because our weight is nearly > identical. I don't prefer a rock solid feel, lively would be much more the > ticket. I think for a bike to feel lively to me, there aren't many Rivs > that would fit the bill. Given that I already know I like the low trail of > my Brommie, I'm thinking something like a Rambler would be more suitable > for me. > > Honestly, it's kind of funny because I've gone full circle (owning > probably the lightest-weight "Riv" bike out there in the San Marcos) to > wanting the stoutest (Hunq/Bomba) back to wanting lightweight tubing (the > San Marcos that I already have!) San Marcos isn't built up though, and I > want to go 650B, and low-trail, which the SM is neither. > > I'd still like to own a Riv at some point, I think if I do, it will be a > 650b MUSA AHH, or an old Atlantis (I think they were made with lighter > tubing than the are now??). > > In the meantime, anyone have a Rambler they're looking to unload? :) > > On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 10:21:57 PM UTC-5, Pondero wrote: >> >> Sean, this is exactly my dilemma. I have learned that enjoy standard >> diameter thin wall tubed framesets because they have more of a springy, >> energetic feel. Others might have different preferences. For example, >> even with a full touring load, my Hilsen was more fun (for me) to ride than >> my Atlantis. If you prefer that rock solid feel over what some might call >> noodly, you might choose the Atlantis or Hunq over the Hilsen. >> >> I eventually purchased an Ocean Air Cycles with standard diameter 8/5/8 >> tubing, have loaded it up with touring gear, and it is even better (for >> me). My weight is around 130-135. Sometimes I don't think average or >> larger folk uunderstand how important that difference is to us small guys. >> But there are wonderfully lively framesets available. >> >> Chris Johnson >> Sanger, Texas >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique ************************************************************************** ************** *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
