FWIW, I have used Albas and Choco norms. I don't believe there are three 
hand positions. A friend with a SH had Choco norms and he just went with a 
Noodle and prefers it. He used the Choco for a couple of years. I did not 
like the Choco's and prefer the Billie flipped. Bars are personal, like 
shoes, you gotta try different ones to really know what works for you. I 
have *thought* I found a great bar from a picture...wrong. My 2 cents.

On Friday, July 6, 2018 at 11:55:32 AM UTC-4, Ryan Olson wrote:
>
> They are definitely more upright than 'staches.  I find that I can get 
> suitably aero on the choco's by grabbing the front of the bends and resting 
> my forearms on the swept back part (I didn't cut any off), but not really 
> meant for that type of use I think.  I was actually looking at other types 
> of bars that fit mtb brake levers that allow for a more forward position, 
> but not quite like drops; Soma Lauterwasser, Sparrow (upside down) or the 
> new Billie bars seem perfect, they're just out of stock, maybe even an 
> albatross upside down.  Seems like that is the beauty of quill stems and a 
> semi-forward bar - you could adjust the bar height with one of those 
> mentioned above to give you a more or less forward position, but still have 
> the luxury of upright if you want just by adjusting the height of the stem, 
> which doesn't take that long.  
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 12:21:01 PM UTC-6, jandrews wrote:
>>
>> Talk to me about choco norms.
>> From those who have actually ridden them, do they really offer 3 hand 
>> positions that are useful?  Could they be a replacement for a drop or 
>> mustache rider?
>> I'm asking because, I'm considering using them for my S.H. rebuild which 
>> currently has noodles.  I have a set of Albas with handgrips but they 
>> aren't as useful for long distance riding for me.
>> Any tourists or campers using the choco norms are really liking them?
>> JS
>>
>

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