Thanks for the info Grant. I can understand Nitto's position. I have a lot of miles on those bars in road and "gravel" conditions and I don't get any sense that they are weak or dangerous.
Also, not sure what the deleted message said but I surely didn't intend this to be a controversial post. I'm not a "gravel grinder" guy trying to change Riv, just the opposite, I think if people had a chance to try extra wide drop bars they would see how Riv-like the riding position is. I simply fell out of love with my 48 noodles after riding for a year or so on a bike with albatross bars (and another with the underrated surly open bar"). My point is that Rivendell has been instrumental in advancing smart, safe, and more comfortable ways to ride bikes. I rode tons of road bikes in the 90s and 00s with standard 42-44cm bars. In general the idea was to stretch out forward over the bike (long stem helped with the narrow bars). This put your arms into a more narrow position (and I was also taught to bring my elbows in). I know a lot of people that still ride this way and I'm not asking anyone to change, but I just like the more upright riding position that Rivendell has often supported. Like I said, I'm not a huge Crust guy. I just happened to see a picture of that magic beard guy with a prototype of the 666mm bars and reached out to them at the right time and got a set of the bars. It took a while to get used to them (and the super short stem set up), and I still think they are a bit too wide, but I have to say I have been really transformed by the ability to ride drop bars while staying more in the position one is usually in with a set of upright bars, and go just a little faster. This has been a big deal for me. This was the reason I sold my Quickbeam and bought a new Atlantis. I thought the Atlantis was stout enough to handle the wide bars, and I love the way the Atlantis rides with the wide bars and huge 55m Compass tires. I'll keep an eye on my stem/bar combo, but I can't imagine the 5cm technomic is a risk in road and gravel trail riding. So maybe we need a 55-58 Noodle AND a pretty 5cm cromo stem? :) Thanks! Brynnar Indy On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 3:23:38 PM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 12:22:45 PM UTC-7, Grant @ Rivendell wrote: >> >> Nitto tests bars and stems together and wants the bars to break before >> the stem. The bars are already strong, and they've found that even 51s (we >> had samples made) impose too much leverage on the stem. The workaround >> might be to make stronger stems, but then you get into a whole escalating >> mish-mash where one chases the other, and stems, which have forced >> dimensions inherited down the line, and then all you can do is make it >> steel. >> One of the drawbacks of working with NITTO is accepting their >> super-prudence in times like this. It's like, also, when our 66cm Wavie >> bars come in---we'll recommend them only with CrMo or other Nitto stems >> intended for mtn bikes. Some will mount them on Tallux (road) stems, but we >> will recommend something stronger. When NITTO hears "mountain bike riding" >> they imagine the worst and stupidest. Personally, I don't think at all that >> Crust is being IMprudent with the widies. It's a good company and they do >> neat, good things! >> >> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 1:55:10 PM UTC-7, ctifusion wrote: >>> >>> I'm sure the 666mm Crust bars are way too wide for most, but I love >>> them. And they don't really make them anyway, I was just in the right place >>> when they brought out the one run. I keep waiting for someone to put a wide >>> drop bar into production. >>> >>> I think a 58 Noodle would be a huge hit for a lot of riders. >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Brynnar >>> Indy >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
