Well Grant, I'm certainly looking forward to seeing what y'all come up 
with. I already ride several different mountain bikes, two full suspension 
(one XC and one "enduro) and one steel framed, rigid 29'er set up single 
speed. I like them all but could honestly do without the enduro bike. It's 
really too much bike for the majority of trails I ride, but it is fun and 
comfy. I've always wanted a Riv mtb and this could be the one for me. 

As long as I could get wheels that will work with whatever braking system 
comes on it and the bike has enough clearance for, say, a 2.3 or 2.4 and 
some mud pack, I'm good. A rigid mtb is a blast to ride, even in gnarlier 
terrain. 

On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 11:21:15 AM UTC-5, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Even though many of the guesses are 75 percent accurate, this bike is 
> bound to disappoint throngs, but not by intent. There is already tons of 
> variety in mtn bikes. More than a dozen categories--jumpers, pumpers, xc, 
> dh, hardtails, fat, plus, e, enduro... No matter what we do, there's going 
> to be some overlap, and it's going to be both too much and not enough, 
> depending. There will be some THINGS that it doesn't excel at, but it's 
> more the rider than the bike, anyway--right?
> The record descent of Repack Road (fire trail in Marin County on which 95 
> percent of the original mtn bike development took place in the late '70s) 
> is 4:22 for all 2 miles and 1,300 feet of it. In late '76 Gary Fisher did 
> that on a modified paperboy bike with a coaster brake. About 8 years 
> later,  (sorry for the history!) daredevil downhiller Jimmy Deaton, rode it 
> on a then-SOA bike in 4:34. 
> Those are the facts that feed the notion that the measure of a bike and a 
> rider is speed, which I think is way off.  When you design for extreme 
> speeds or terrain or surfaces (sand, snow, boulders...) you get an extreme 
> bike that psychologizes normal riders into thinking they're worse for being 
> normal and let's them buy their way into the glorified extreme world and 
> look ready for action on the way back from Trader Joe's. 
>
> The plan with the new bike—which may not even happen—is that it's a 
> sufficient platform and maybe no more, for lots of non-extreme trail 
> riding, and it's sufficiently different than our other bikes to be barely 
> justifiable. 
>
> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:14:09 PM UTC-7, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
>>
>> I also noticed that hint, but wasn't quite certain how to interpret it.  
>> On one hand it made me wonder whether a fatter tired single speeder is in 
>> the pipeline (Hunqabeam!) but then I read it again and determined my own 
>> selfish desires were too heavily influencing that initial interpretation.  
>> Curiouser and curiouser!
>>
>> Brian Cole
>> Lawrenceville, NJ
>>
>> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>>
>>> This might be a stretch, but hey, what's the fun in following a guru if 
>>> you can't spend hours parsing his words and interpreting them?  I think 
>>> there might be a hint towards an upcoming trail-oriented Riv (or update to 
>>> an existing Riv) hidden in this passage from Grant's post yesterday 
>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/sjdflsjfl-april-26>
>>> : 
>>>
>>> In mountain bike racing and just riding, it's gone the other way. The 
>>>> early guys were riding unsuitably low-tech bikes, then bikes reached a 
>>>> basic good level of appropriate technology in the late '80s, and now 
>>>> they've borrowed as much as possible—for now—from cars and motorcycles. 
>>>> There are reactions to it the other way, with one-speed mountain bikes, 
>>>> but 
>>>> those are fading fast because...one gear is too limiting for varied 
>>>> terrain. *There's no restraint at that end, and we're going to show 
>>>> 'em all what-for sometime late this year, if we can pull it off.*
>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder what it could be...the before-hinted plus-tire Hunqapillar?  
>>> Bringing back the Bombadil (probably can't be done under the LOTR gag 
>>> order)?  Some other new trail-oriented rig?
>>>
>>> Honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my Jones-barred Clem as my MTB 
>>> (well...a threadless fork would be nice), so I'm not anxiously awaiting 
>>> anything, but it would be interesting to see what they come up with.  
>>>
>>> Let the speculation begin!     
>>>
>>

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