I came to same conclusions... luckily before I rode my 56 Hillborne. So I started with a much shorter quill, a 90 mm Nitto Pearl, ( which measures 97mm compared to all other Nitto quill stems??) and placed the bars as level with the seat as I could eyeball given the B17 shape, stem angle and Nitto Noodle ramp angle. I too was previously riding with the bars below the saddle. I also only went to the 44 Noodle from riding 42cm bars my whole life.
Fortunately, I guessed right and mine fits like a glove on top. ( I still where gloves for some reason) I also used the Soma fat cork tape instead of cloth. The B17 which when I tried on the lower bar bike was uncomfortable, feels like a long lost pal when place nearly even with the saddle. So not every Rivendell bike attribute works for each of us ( and thank God for that). and Congrats on your new bike! Mike SoCal On Feb 26, 3:46 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > (Albuquerque, NM, February 26, 2010) Interviewed today at his home nestled > in one of Albuquerque's exclusive bosque neighborhoods, Patrick Moore > reported his reactions to his initial ride on the SH delivered earlier today > by UPS. Moore, who rode a brisk 23 mile out and back on Albuquerque's Rio > Grande bike trail, was clearly troubled by his experience. "It wasn't at all > what I expected," he said, adding with characteristic modesty that he wished > to post his remarks to both lists "Because I don't want my many fans on > either list to miss my apothegmatic utterances that, jewel-like, fall from > my lotus blossom lips." (Hrrhmm.) Clearly upset, he went on to say that the > riding experience promises to destroy a cycling lifetime's worth of > carefully built and hoarded prejudices. "It's not right," he said. "My > opinions ought not to be trifled with like this." > > Further conversation revealed that his concerns came down to the following: > > 1. Bars. The bars are fully 2" higher than those on his road bikes, and, > with the 59 cm effective tt and the 10 cm stem, the reach is fully 4 cm > further forward -- not to mention the 46 Noodles compared to the 42s he > usually uses. "Even after I agressively buried that horrible, foot-long > Technomic quill deep in the steerer, the bars were still a good one to two > inches higher than the saddle. That's not right!" Even so, Moore rode the > entire 23 miles in the hooks with absolutely no discomfort except for the > numbness in the outer pad of his left hand, something that, he says, always > afflicts him with any position except the hoods. "The hoods are troubling > high, and I think they make the front end a bit too light," he added, saying > that he fully intends to lower the Tektro levers an inch or so to a more > normal position. The entire 23 miles were ridden without gloves on the hard, > unforgiving cloth tape. "And who secures tape with *twine*," he asked? " > "That's not right!" > > 2. Tires. "I was prepared to be generous and accept tires fatter than the > skinnies I ride on pavement," he said, "but the huge fatness of the 33 mm > Jack Browns was truly frightening when I first saw them. I had no idea that > a mere 33 mm could be so *fat*!" He claimed that he didn't even check the > pressure, but simply rode them as they came from the box, adding, "And they > felt fast and smooth! I took a 1/4 mile turn on the gravel at speed, and > they seemed to roll almost as well as on the pavement." Moore pointed out > that he had not yet installed a computer, but, "I expect, not to be overly > optimistic, that I averaged a bit over 23 mph, just judging by the way I was > dropping all those young endodontists on their Madones and Sprectri; the > wind was rather fierce, so I had to back off." > > 3. Saddle. "This is the scariest thing," he said, "I know that B 17s have a > bad reputation, but I decided that, since Rivendell was too lazy to take the > saddle out of the box, I might as well try it; after all, one needn't always > select the most expensive and best; especially since this bike is just a > beater." "Well! After taking the rubber mallet to it to get it all the way > back, and fine tuning the tilt and height, I was very, very frightened to > find that it *didn't* chafe the taintal area! And I was wearing cottong > FOTLs! That's just scary!" > > Moore said he has reported his experiences to the authorities, in particular > to the Department of Homeland Security, and expects a special team to be > assembled to investigate what his DOHS contact agreed was "a very troubling > possibility. "We are very open to the chance that this might develop into a > true threat to the motherland," DOHS spokesperson Melinda Belinda said. "We > are taking it very seriously. We extend all our sypmpathy to Mr. Moore and > his family." > > Photos at 11! > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
