I agree 100%. There is a lot of bike folklore out there. You won't be able to make a sharp U turn as easily but so what?
On Monday, May 28, 2018 at 11:34:23 AM UTC-4, Hugh Flynn wrote: > > I picked up a gloriously long-stayed Appalloooooosa around the time the > new Atlantis was announced (with requisite hew and cry over its new long > stays), and can only comment that I still don’t get the objections. I’m no > faster or slower on the Appa than on any other bike I own (climbing or > otherwise), but can attest that* I* massively *enjoy* steep on and > off-road descents on *this Cadillac of a ride more than on any of my > shorter stayed bikes.* > > Not suggesting it’s a massive night and day difference by any means, just > that I FEEL like the Appaloosa is somewhat more shure-footed. If that has > nothing to do with the long stays, well, at least I can report that I have > yet to find anything to be unhappy about with the bike (and much to be VERY > happy about). > > Hugh “long stays seem nice so far” Flynn > Newburyport, MA > > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 10:09 AM iamkeith <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I was daydreaming about a bike project and looking for information about >> some old IGHs this memorial day morning, and stumbled on a google group >> thread from 1991 in which Jobst Brandt participated. I thought this >> off-topic comment about chainstay length was interesting. Echoes >> everything Rivendell (or vice versa, given the chronology), but it is the >> first time I've heard the 'drafting' component of the racer-driven designs >> explained. >> >> [email protected] >> >> K---- C----- writes: >> >> > Try as I might, I just cannot for the life of me figure out how short >> > chainstays are going to help climbing. Someone enlighten me before I go >> > nuts with this one!! >> >> That's simple. Short chainstays help you do wheelies if the hill gets >> steep. It's this kind of thinking that brought us bike with so little >> tire clearance that a one inch cross section damn near scrapes the fork >> crown and requires letting the air out of the rear tire for removal. >> >> I think someone noticed that the fastest road bikes are the ones >> ridden by TTT riders. These bikes are the shortest road bikes and >> therefore, short bikes are fast. The trouble is, they are short to >> allow four riders to draft as close together as possible, not because >> a short bike is inherently fast. This concept seems to have escaped >> the advocates of short bikes. They use terms like " they're >> rsponsive" amd "accelerate quickly". What can you say to such a >> claim? It is so patently unfounded that a response is difficult to >> construct without being argumetative without just playing stupid. >> >> Bicycle lore is great, and shave those legs before climbing hills. >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> R.I.P., Jobst. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > Hugh Flynn > Newburyport, MA > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
