Yup, fully agree with all that! Or assume I will when I reach 61, i'm sure 
quicker than I thought. lol

This is the book i was referring to https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006XF5BTG

I also got this one because I decided to commit to his program for a year 
and this just makes it easier since it's a year's worth of programming and 
log book.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1938895231
If you step back and look at it, it's not al that different from other 
beginner/intermediate programs like Starting Strength, Fierce Five, etc.

But yeah, I'd say this book (the first one above) was as much a help to me 
as Gary Taub's book (another Grant favorite) was about 8 years ago. That's 
the one that really got me started.

6% I couldn't do! 10 would be a more realistic goal. I'm about 11-12 now 
but said that's enough and starting my first lean bulk. An hour a day M-F 
first thing in the morning before anyone else is up is all I have time for. 
Kids!!! lol


On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 2:43:54 PM UTC-5, pb wrote:
>
> A few random responses.
>
> - Looks like Mike Matthews has built quite the marketing machine, with a 
> variety of books and variations.  If he isn't a snake oil peddler, he's 
> still a peddler.  Just observing.  
>
> - When I was 45 I was at 6% body fat and I could still hang in with the 
> 1&2 pack.  I was also in the gym hours a day, 5 days a week.  At 61, my 
> body and metabolism are different, although I agree that lifting remains 
> core to fitness and physical well-being.  (I also like the treadmill for 
> its precise effort and heart rate management.)
>
> - Not every body responds to a diet program the same way.
>
> - I'm glad that you have figured it all out.  That's a great place to be. 
>    
>  
> So which precisely is Mike's starter book, and how many more of his books 
> are necessary to achieve enlightenment?  No surprise, the idea of another 
> book is exhausting.  As an aside, I'm on a program right now that has been 
> working in lots of ways, but I still feel like stopping to take a nap when 
> on longer bike rides, so apparently I have not figured it all out.  
>
> ~pb
>
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 11:36:09 AM UTC-7, d2mini wrote:
>
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