Not NYC, but I live in s. Texas and ride the hill country and San Antonio. We can have really wet sloppy seasons, though it's never reliable on the calendar - it's mostly dependent on El Nino and La Nina in the Pacific. I have 4 bikes, two with full-time fenders, and a third with clip fenders. Already mentioned, the best thing fenders do is keep drivetrains clean - chains free of sand, etc. I get your point about big tires, but will tackle the appearance thing first - here shorty fenders - these things actually work - they keep road dirt from all those slots in CP brakes Next to it, same bike - finally got my Honjos moved onto it - no hit on the looks.
<https://imgur.com/2M0EDXO.jpg> <https://imgur.com/FSjtRwq.jpg> Have you thought about removable fenders such as Raceblade XL? https://www.sks-germany.com/en/products/raceblade-pro-xl/ I have these on and off my 3rd fender bike, along with a PDW Origami (front) mud guard on the seat tube to make them near-enough full-coverage. Two minutes to install, 30 seconds to remove, adequate coverage on my 38mm Barlows <https://imgur.com/nFDc91R.jpg> <https://imgur.com/NiTTeYa.jpg> This is how much sand stuck to the mud guard from one slop ride. <https://imgur.com/AGsMVEi.jpg> without this setup, half of that would have ended up on the -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.