Andy, great to hear you keep loving your ventile! It really is remarkable stuff. Just imagine how you’ll feel if you ever don fishnet longjohns! Makes moisture management (the key to this whole thing) even easier.
Craig, Ron is spot on. Hilltrek in Scotland is where I get my jacket. I didn’t go with the cycling specific one as it is athletic fit and doesn’t allow for bulky layers underneath, a necessity for the riding and bikepacking I do. This one: http://hilltrek.co.uk/clothing/smocks/foinaven-smock/ They have a lot of options, single layer ventile (not water proof, works about 20 minutes in a downpour), double layer ventile (waterproof, but body generated moisture can have a hard time getting out), single layer with double layer cape (attempting to be the best of both worlds, lighter, with more protection where needed most), and Cotton Analogy: a ventile shell with a micro-fur in active wicking function (which I’ve gone with because it actively pushes liquid and vapor moisture out). If trying ventile for the first time, have the expectation that it works differently than GoreTex et al. Mosture swells the cotton fibers, making the jacket stiffer and blocking additional moisture getting through, though single layer allows inward wicking to occure (hense the need for double layer and cotton analogy). The whole idea is to stay dry from the outside while simultaniously allowing body generated moisture to escape. This can give the impression that one never feels damp, which isn’t true. I feel damp when exerting (and layer lighter to compensate, as well as opening the neck to increase air flow. The advantage is that over the course of a day you will stay dryer and dry out faster than if you had on Gortex et al. Just like a cotton shirt gets damp from sweat when exerting, so do any layers. The question is how quickly do they push moisture out and dry out. Goretex can’t keep up nearly as well as Ventile. Add in fishnet longjohns (Wiggy’s has inexpensive nylon ones, I’ve never tried the bottoms and they have minimal mesh. https://www.wiggys.com/clothing-outerwear/fishnet-long-underwear/) Nylon is rough next to the skin though, so I quickly shifted to wool fishnet by Brynje https://www.brynjeusa.com (they have all synthetic too if you prefer). I bought mine from here, before the USA distributer existed: https://www.nordiclife.co.uk/collections/brynje. Likely more info than you want, unless you are daft enough to be in conditions that make such gear look good. Grin. With abandon, Patrick (a happy customer of all these companies, not sponsored in any way.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
