Valve stem nuts are a great idea!  Comparing stem nuts to the M5 washers I
got, I did notice the washers are smaller in both outside and inside
diameter.  But, for the Sam's bosses anyway, the inside diameter of the
stem nuts I have are appear to be small enough to still have enough contact
with the flats of the bosses.  Thanks everyone.

Tom

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Jeffrey Arita <jeffreyar...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> In a pinch one could also use valve stem nuts.  Inside diameter is good
> and they are decent thickness.  Can 'stack' them for rack mounting off-sets
> at fork braze-on too.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 8:03:20 AM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>>
>> I wish Riv, and other companies, would ship their bikes with longer
>> bottle cage bolts and spacers to enable one to mount a cage (or whatever)
>> so it will clear/span the front derailleur clamp.  (They do know it's
>> there...).  And, to be fair, maybe all bottle cage manufacturers could
>> design cages with mounting tabs that would stick out enough to clear
>> derailleur clamps :)  Anyway, my Velo Orange "Retro" bottle cage has a
>> perfectly flat mounting area, so I needed a solution.
>>
>> I saw that Problem Solvers provides a bolt+spacer solution ... so
>> obviously this is common enough to warrant some company selling a
>> work-around.  As I thought it might be over-priced, but more importantly
>> because I wanted to get on with it and ride, my solution was to:
>> - Go to Performance Bike 10 min away and get two M5 x 0.8 x 20mm socket
>> head stainless bolts (free ... they had a jillion in a plastic jug of diff
>> lengths)
>> - Go to Home Depot 5 min from there and get two packs of four M5
>> stainless flat washers (a little over $1 for both packs total).  They had
>> no suitable 4mm-ish spacers
>> - Stack 4 washers behind each mounting hole in the the bottle cage so as
>> to space it out and just clear the protruding derailleur clamp
>>
>> Including the driving and looking for stuff, I was good to go in about 45
>> min from initial head-scratching.  From 5 feet away, you have to look
>> really hard to discern the diff between washers and single spacer.  Of
>> course the bottle hides everything when it's in the cage.
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NTDqiW4MqfY/WsTm8XvLKlI/AAAAAAAABWY/k6rzrN5hlw0bIA2eU4klpApLhkM_jp7UgCLcBGAs/s1600/bottlecage_mounting_solution.jpg>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I'm sure others have some up with similar solutions.  This is my
>> quick, cheap solution - hope it helps somebody.  I probably need to look
>> for a bike-oriented metric fastener|washer|spacer "kit" somewhere.  I tend
>> not to need anything metric except for bikes, so I haven't built up a bin
>> full of this stuff yet.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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