On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:43 PM, jose <jose.cor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Even with puny 35mm Schwalbe Supremes and SKS 45mm fenders, I can get > toe strike on my 58cm Atlantis if I try hard enough on start-up. This > is because sometimes my (size 12) foot placement on Grip Kings is > accidentally too far forward initially on start-up. > > But its not a major issue for me. Like cyclofiend is saying, with a > little practice its easily avoidable. > > I also had 29 x 2.1 Nanoraptors on the Atlantis for a time, and > definitely had to be more conscious of it while riding the slow twisty > semi-technical stuff. But it was still fun and not a show-stopper. > > Here's a pic of it with the Nanoraptors on: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4033477230 > > Cutting it close, but probably not an issue if i used cleats. > > > > > > On Feb 1, 1:14 pm, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > on 2/1/10 6:26 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J at > thomas.alling...@skadden.com > > wrote: > > > > Am I right (or, in the alternative, completely misguided) in thinking > that > > TCO should not be a problem if you're not clipped in? (I suppose maybe > > that's why the problem is called "toe clip overlap.") > > > > Just for reference sake, it's important to define the following: > > > > "Clipped In" means using some sort of cleated interface to secure your > shoes > > and pedals - SPD, TIME, LOOK, etc... > > > > "Clipless" are the type of pedals that you clip into as above. It is an > > honorable semantic effort to shift this phrase to "Clip in". Even the > > snowboarders use the phrase "Click-in binding"... > > > > "Toe Clips" are the cages that extend off the front of the pedal. Once > upon > > a time, we nailed cleats to the bottom of our cycling shoes, so that the > > rear lip of the pedal cage secured the shoe. Then we tightened down the > toe > > straps. Then we were "clipped in". We were young and foolish. > > > > Slipping a pair of cycling or street shoes into a Toe Clip is "using toe > > clips" > > > > All-righty then... > > > > One of the quickest ways to get into trouble is to get your foot _inside_ > of > > the front wheel when stopped or at low speeds. Really, that's about the > > only time it can happen, because you really shouldn't be turning the bars > > that much unless you are coming down Repack on a Klunker in about 1978 or > > thereabouts. > > > > The best way to compound the problem is to be riding a fixed gear, > because, > > obviously, you can't backpedal and the momentum of the bicycle is driving > > your foot. > > > > The first time I did this (on my Dawes commuter, which has toe clips and > > fenders), I very luckily dropped my heel, which pointed my toe up, > creating > > plenty of room for the wheel to swing back to center. Then, I seriously > > panicked and froze up. Luckily, the freezing took place after the fact, > and > > as such did not end catastrophically. > > > > I'm a great believer in practicing for disaster, and have since played > with > > this condition a bit to create some muscle memory for the future. > > > > Depending upon the tension in your legs, the position of your foot, you > can > > definitely compound the problem if your reaction is to push down harder. > > It's really a weird feeling when it happens, and your instinctive > reaction > > may not be correct. > > > > It's not a bad idea to play with the clearances, so you know beforehand > what > > they are. Sitting stationary on the bike (with a spotter - some of the > > hardest falls I've had were at 0 mph...) in a doorframe or next to some > > support, set your foot forward and move the bars to create the problem. > > > > - Jim > > > > -- > > Jim Edgar > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > > > "One Cog - Zero Excuses" L/S T-shirt - Now availablehttp:// > www.cyclofiend.com/stuff > > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > > > Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >
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