Nope quite black when new. They have faded a bit. Here it is along with a 
black Carradice bag a few years ago.

On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 7:19:37 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Hmm, that does look the same as the Ebay bag. Were they more dark grey 
> than black? That "black" looks nothing like my black Carradice. 

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