I had the riser 2.5 Loop (660mm) on my Clem L and really liked it. Clems have 
long (virtual) toptubes commensurate to seattube size so I used a shorty 40cm 
Thomson stem on a V-O quill adapter. 

I was just pondering last night that I should sell the cockpit because I sold 
the Clem and currently don't have a bike to put this bar on. If you think you 
might want to try one without paying full pop for new, PM me or text at 415 
seven eight six 46 two three and I'll send pics of it off the bike. 

Here's pics on the Clem.
  https://photos.app.goo.gl/QDiNsiAcGmMVxmTy1 

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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