@ Patrick: overall weight? - not sure. I think same. I'd have to measure. I think I did once and they were the same, have to double check. I think it was Sam: 29 Ram: 27, Bleriot: 27 Wheel weight? - sameish (Rode GB 650b on Bleriot and Ram, Synergies 650b on Ram and Sam). Tires? - sameish (Rode 650b 42's on all). Loads? - same Position and fit? - same (53 Bleriot, 54Ram, 52Sam). All 41 Noodles and 6cm stems. Bar heights/reach same. All Flyer saddles, set up in KOPS. Reach same.SH same.
The Ram buildset was swapped over from my Sam. I noted (if true from what the bike sheets say from RR and RBW) that the rear triangle and ST, IIRC, is a smidgeon thinner walled on the Ram than the Sam. I asked Grant why the Ram would feel easier to get on down the road. He said he didn't know. Speculated maybe the shorter stays, and one other thing, but I forgot what it was. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.