I've never had any problem pushing a bike with rear panniers -- Ortieb Roller Packers and Packer Pluses, or whatever the 2 full sized models are; but my bikes have long stays, and perhaps because of my, admittedly, cool pushing method, holding the bike with left hand at the stem/bar junction -- even up hills. That said, I have found them annoying even in sparse brush, and in such an environment, a large frame bag would seem (I've not used a large one) preferable.
I do use a medium Revelate frame bag to hold my kit (including bulky mountain bike tube and 4 oz bottle of Orange Seal, as well as one of the fatter Lezyne minipumps; but especially to carry the bulky switch and capacitor, along with bundled cables, for the K-Lite. The bag has room left over from all this stuff to carry, say, a sandwich and a tightly rolled up, lightweight vest. I like this better than the 2 top tube bags I used before -- more room, but interferes less with the rider. The medium still allows use of both inside-triangle bottle cages. OTOH, I like panniers because it is much easier to put them on and take them off; I adjust carrying capacity to the load envisioned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.