Sold me. I just ordered a Braemar Hybrid Smock with hand warmer and compass pockets.
I have to acknowledge an accountant that worked for my dad who had run away to Canada and joined the RCAF when he was 15, ended up in England for the Battle of Britain as a fighter pilot and survived multiple downings, two in the channel, for which he surely owed his survival to Ventile. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 1:24:40 PM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Well Patrick I appreciate your attempt to answer it just the same and I'm > definitely still interested by ventile. It does sound ideal for your > climate and riding style. > > Thanks again, Tony > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 10:53 AM Deacon Patrick <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Much like wider tires, more supple tires, steel bikes, higher handlebars, >> and longer chain stays, ventile changes how I think about and use rainwear >> and clothing in general on any given ride. >> >> It's a wind shirt, insulating layer (more so if it's cotton analogy), and >> waterproof. So pack size is far less a factor than with a synthetic garment >> because it can be effectively and comfortably worn far more often. On long >> day rides, I no longer take anything but my jacket. Yes, the jacket takes >> up more room. I'm fine with that. Remember, though that I ride in the >> Colorado Rockies, where we can get all four seasons in an hour, regardless >> of what the forecast called for. >> >> Redefining waterproof, for the better. Ventile is waterproof BECAUSE it >> gets wet and this swells the fibers and prevents more water from getting >> in. It also stiffens the garment. I'm always surprised how quickly it dries >> (vs. a cotton shirt, for example) after a rain. But on cool, high humidity >> days, it can stay wet on the outside for a long time. This is actually the >> garment working properly. I stay dry on the inside, regardless of activity >> -- or more accurately I rapidly become dry if my activity level was such >> that I was sweating a lot. But the layering under matters. I find far >> greater range of comfort wearing fishnet base layer shirt. >> >> All that is to say, Tony, I have no idea how to answer your question, >> because ventile is an entirely different way of addressing an outer garment. >> >> With abandon, >> Patrick >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 17, 2017 at 5:57:43 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: >>> >>> I'm curious if the ventile products do better in packing or dry time. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/lLmVUgrub5o/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
